Billaney Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 sorry if this is a bit large but i need the Scentific ames of these guys so i can look up ISBN referances : thanks 1, Done Thanks 2, Done Thanks 3, Done Thanks 4,Done Thanks 5,Done Thanks 6,Done Thanks Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 hi billaney, just had a look at your pic's, you have beautiful fish,especially your fighters. a quick question for ya!! on the third page of pic's,what is the name of the cichlid? shelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Pretty sure the first one is Melanotaenia lacustrus Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Check this link for #2 http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/Thumbnai ... hp?ID=6704 I think this is Haplachromis burtoni Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Sorry...can't help...but your fish are awesome :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi_man Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 ummm #3 Sciaenochromis Fyeri (reason for not being ahli is because of orange on anal fin) #4 Mayandia/Pseudotropheus Callainos otherwise some sort of zebra. #5 just a guess but could be Maylandia Estherae or Maybe some sort of zebra again. #6 Maylandia Crabro hope this helps :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoandWilly Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Last two are metraclima estherae and Pseudotropheus crabro.... but yeah they change names all the time so they could be both mayandia, different websites say different things and i dont have any books to get the actual scientific name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 JoandWilly said Last two are metraclima estherae and Pseudotropheus crabro.... but yeah they change names all the time so they could be both mayandia, different websites say different things and i dont have any books to get the actual scientific name when filling out the form you must put the correct name and all other known scientific names. for e.g I have filled out a form for Fundulopanchax sjoestedti, this is it's correct name, however it is also known as Aphyosemion sjoestedti. the form has both names on it. you may need to do a google search http://www.google.com/custom?q=&sa=Goog ... itesearch= on the different names, I think Metraclima estherae is now Pseudotropheus estherae. you will have to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoandWilly Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 well i know you can trust everything you can find on the internet but as far as i can tell alot of things started off as pseudotropheus and then split up and some went to maylandia and that split up and some went to metraclima... the estherae and crabro both fall under this as far as i can tell. There still are some pseudotropheus, but compared to some of the older books there are hardly any compared to what there was 20 years ago. It would be so much easier if once they named the damn fish it would stay with the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 isn't that the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 all other known scientific names Gee, how many names does one kind of fish have :-? Why do they have more than one name and why do the names change? Who changes them or for that matter who names them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi_man Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 i'm pretty sure pseudotropheus is out the door or it could be that just pseudoptropheus zebra was split into maylandia/metriaclima and there is still a debate going on about maylandia and metriaclima at the moment, it will end up as one or the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 The reason they change the names on fishes is that they often just call a fish by a name of something similar when first discovered, eg;pseudotropheus...currently there are about 200 species a year being discovered, its up to the scientists to argue over later, when they get to examine a fish they notice differences, eg; scales, teeth...from there they get re-classified. Another thing is in the older days there weren't as many species, Alot of Tangy's were Neoloamprologus, Malawis were Haplochromis..... as for the fish in the pics, 1) I think Aaln is right. Hard to tell with rainbows 2) Astatotilapia brownae, formely known as Haplochromis 3) Copadichromis azureus, the sciaenochromis are more slender 4) Metriaclima callainos, cobalt blue 5) Maylandia Estherae, red zebra 6) Maylandia Crabro, bumlebee cichlid Hope this helps. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi_man Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 i didn't know the azureus had the orange on the dorsal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Just what I thought, I am going by the Aqua colour running through the bottom of the fish & face. Also the body & head shape. Some do have the orange tint on their anal fin. Usual though its only edging. The only orange I see in the dorsal fin is minor dotting, which they do have. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Yeah justin your right definatly not a Elec Blue I would have to agree bout the azureus The Sciaenochromis Fyeri has a very pointy head not rounded like the protomelas,copadichromis family also the first one is a type of rainbow very very similiar the one alan was referring to good to see everyone jumping in and helping out Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billaney Posted October 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hi Thanks for all the help , three done and three checked and agreed with but i need an ISBN referance for these three as i can't find them in my books 2) Astatotilapia brownae, 3) Copadichromis azureus 6) Maylandia Crabro, bumlebee cichlid Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Thanks Frenchy for the info My gosh Billaney...you sure had your work cut out for you...how long have you been doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Astatotilapia brownae Baensch Aquarium Atlas 3 ISBN 1-56465-185-1 page 694 Copadichromis azureus Baensch Aquarium Atlas 3 ISBN 1-56465-185-1 page 778 Maylandia crabro (under Pseudotropheus) Baensch Aquarium Atlas 3 ISBN 1-56465-185-1 page 852 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Well done Caryl. Brad has the Baensch Atlas books at work,really good books. If your books are old then crabro was pseudotropheus, brownae and azureus were haplochromis. Good luck with maf. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 The ones I have here are 1994 so will not have the latest name changes but it is the same fish, which is what counts! They are great books but very expensive. The only reason I have them is they belong to the FNZAS and I use them as references when I do articles for the Aquarium World magazine. About the only perk for being editor is the large selection of reference books I have here 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billaney Posted October 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Astatotilapia brownae Baensch Aquarium Atlas 3 ISBN 1-56465-185-1 page 694 Copadichromis azureus Baensch Aquarium Atlas 3 ISBN 1-56465-185-1 page 778 Maylandia crabro (under Pseudotropheus) Baensch Aquarium Atlas 3 ISBN 1-56465-185-1 page 852 Caryl what a star !! Thank you All very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Just popped in to see Brad. Same numbers. His #3 is 1996. I don't own any of these, I just read brad's. :lol: Yes good Aquarium books are pricey, :-? I have a few good books, which I picked up at cost price when managing lfs. Good team effort by everyone. I have had a couple of pm's from people asking about pics of fish. I don't think it would work as I'm in Aussie, what are the rules? Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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