raeh1 Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 What is to hot for a marine aquarium? Last summer before livstock was added my tank hit 32 degrees. Now I have shrimps, coral, clam, and fish. What are your guys opinions as to too hot? How mush heat would a good fan take out. or do I need a chiller. Our house is a sun magnet in summer. Cheers. Also issues with plumbing in a chiller as I don't have a sump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 32 is too hot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifty Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 anything over 30 is hot isnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 to hot, you would need some way of cooling the tank. ie chiller, aircon for the whole room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 with summer on its way, whats the upper limit for most people? do many vary temp from season to season or go the constant route with chillers etc? (this will be my 1st tank,no chiller and sump downstairs in a cool garage) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 29 is my absolute max, i managed to keep it under 28 this last summer which was very pleasing as it was such a small tank with a big mh right over it. should be lots easier to keep cool this year with the bigger tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 On a similar thread on Reef Central 30 degrees (85 fareinheight) was considered the point where things will suffer and eventually die. All the different species have different tolerances though. I'd say Brians 29 should be the maximum you allow. Before spending megabucks on a chiller, try some fans. Now is the time, before summer, set them up, run them, and see how much they can drop the temp in your tank. I have mine on a timer, that in the summer comes on at 2.00 pm, which is when the tank room starts getting warm. The chiller is an emergency backup and rarely comes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 what are the general effects to the tank chemistry you notice as it heats up,in terms of bacterial activity,algie etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivekv Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 keep ur curtains closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregb Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Rotate 6 2LT frozen coke bottles, 3 in 3 out this will help cool the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Get a chiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 if i remember corectly reuben that temp was even before you added the halides???? in your situation i think the most economical thing to do would be to aircon the house. solves the tank problem and plus it would make summer more bearable for you and your wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hey guys whats too hot for a cold marine tank? I dont think I can afford a chiller, I was just wondering if its a necessity. I would love dogmatix's one but I'm very short of cash at the mo. Also what is the difference between a chiller and a conditioner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Also what is the difference between a chiller and a conditioner chiller chills the tank but if the room is hot it has to work overtime ($) aircon cools the room which seems to cost less then chilling a tank plus you are nice and cool, tank will sit at ambient room temp. (25-26 deg.). only draw back a good aircon cost more to buy then a chiller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Might be worth looking into a good heatpump. Good efficient heating in the winter and cooling in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 When I say conditioner, I mean, on a site I was trying to compare the teco ca 200 and it implied that there were two types of cooling, the teco ra 200 is classed as a chiller, and the teco ca 200 is classed as a conditioner, it might possibly be that a conditioner has a heater aswell, not just a chiller, but im not sure. Anyone know what the max temp for a cold tank should be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Anyone know what the max temp for a cold tank should be? Probably 20-21. Check local stats. Will be higher up north and colder doen south. my tank hit 32 last summer. Corals looked sad and the tank did not look right. All I did was open my tank hood, removed two small lids and placed a small warehouse fan ($13 I think) blowing across the water surface. Dropped the temp to 27-28 and evaporated truckloads of water. I left the fan going day and night that way there was no chance of me forgeting to turn it on. I would go for a fan over frozen bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 29 is my mildly concerned zone, 30 is the ring and order a chiller zone. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ring me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Sure, got a chiller big enough to do 2500 litres of water in stock? Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeh1 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yes thanks for the info. My tank went to 26 degrees today and its October.... I will try fans during this week. But most likely chiller, or heat/ air conditioner unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 26 is no problem. I run my tank at that normally. I think it's more the variation in temperature which kills below about 30 degrees. Then sustained temperatures of 31 + can kill. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveA Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Two years ago mine used to hit 32 on some summer days and every summer my Pavona used to partially bleach, pretty much on cue with the first such event (and then spend the rest of the year recovering for the arrival of the next summer). After briefly trying a DIY heat exchanger based cooling system, which worked but was a plumbers nightmare, I added 4 fans to blow across between the lights and the water. Last summer, with the fans in operation, the highest it got to was about 28. The fans operate automatically from the heater controller. This summer the tank is down in the, theoretically cooler, basement and only has two fans blowing across it. However, I have also installed two extractor fans and a fanless duct to allow air to be sucked/pushed into the room from a shaded windward location under a deck. Just this last addition dropped the room temperature (as noticed when I arrive home from work) by a good 2 deg. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeh1 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well today te tank was at 26 degrees at 11.00 am I bought a $10 fan from the warehouse. (Actually 2 one for tank, one for me). Uses 17 watts of power, so small and cheap to run. Within 30 minutes the tank has returned to 25 degrees. Will look into an automatic topper upper though. And will monitor the tank over the next two months. I am looking into a doser unit so that may have a dual purpose. Ie water changes, at same time as water is begining removed. Meaning no pre-heating (surf to tank from cold) at 1 gallon an hour or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuzza Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I got a price last month for a heat pump to do my tank because i had this problem last year.It was ONLY $4500.I was thinking if i got some orders we could buy in bulk and save :lol: .Yeh right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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