kiwiraka Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I wasn't 100% sure where to put this but, I know that the albino allele is recessive to the normal allele, and all the basic things like a genotype of Aa and AA means a normal animal and aa means an albino. But does a carrier Aa show any signs of albinism? I have about 8 post whitebait, one is a banded kokopu, 5 are inanga and two are yet to be identified. The two unidentified fish look the same except one is brown like the rest of the post whitebait fish but one is a very pale cream with a blueish tint. Different colour, carrier of albinism or just a late colour developer? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 smelt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Lol, no definitely a galaxiid, not inanga or giant kokopu, and I'm pretty sure they're not banded kokopu so probably koaro.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colour_genes Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Hi, I'm no expert on natives, but I do know genetics. A carrier (aka split) of albino usually shows no visual signs of this, but there are a lot of other genetic possibilities for a visual reduction in colour in other animals, and in fish as well. There are known genes for various forms of partial albinism (some of which are sex-linked rather than straight recessive) which could give you a paler coloured fish, as well as genes which alter or remove, to varying degrees, the non-melanin colours eg reds etc. Some genes have almost identical visual effects but are transmitted differently. Then there are environmental influences as well. It's a minefield! Really no way to know what you have until it matures, and then, if it stays an unusual colour, you get offspring from it. Good luck with it, hopefully you will have something new & different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Can you show us some pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thanks colour_genes. :gpo2: My camera doesn't connect to the computer and the fish is too small to use my tablet, maybe when it's bigger. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe short jaw kokopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe, but that doesn't explain why it's pale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe, but that doesn't explain why it's pale. The shortjaw that I've seen were quite pale compared to banded and koaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 The shortjaw that I've seen were quite pale compared to banded and koaro That would be cool, what are some early differences between koaro and shortjaw? Or do I just have to wait until they start taking on their adult body shape? Also they've been quite slow growing compared to the inanga and banded.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 You asked for a photo so you get..... Whatever you'd call this.... Terrible quality..... Anyway, the photo makes it look a little bit darker and doesn't really show the blue tint (it doesn't really show the fish..... ) Having a close look at the fish it seems to have a slightly undercut jaw, definately shorter than the inanga and banded.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Whats that plant with the yellowish stuff on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 That's the background :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oh :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Shortjaw have a dark splodge behind the gill plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 They're both splodgy! Well it's hard to tell.... but they look like they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Now that they are (a little bit) bigger they have almost exactly the same body shape as this http://www.fishesofaustralia.net.au/home/species/3672 galaxias brevipinnis. Do koaro have the same body shape as their Aussie cousins? So anyway, just picture that fish only really pale blue (and tiny) and that's what I have, ID anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Now that they are (a little bit) bigger they have almost exactly the same body shape as this http://www.fishesofaustralia.net.au/home/species/3672 galaxias brevipinnis. Do koaro have the same body shape as their Aussie cousins? So anyway, just picture that fish only really pale blue (and tiny) and that's what I have, ID anyone? Yes the shape is the same, the colour is a little different but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks, do you know how the whitebait size and growth rate compares between koaro and shortjaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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