camtang Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I found this in my pleco tank today. I am having mixed feelings, the fry was on the intake of the canister and the adult on the spraybar. This is the first fry in the tank that I have seen, but it sucks that I lost an adult in the process. I am unsure of what type of pleco the fry is but I guess in time I will find out. Anyway all water paras are normal except for Nitrate so a water change is in order a day early this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I lost 2 L002 over the last week, just randomly found them floating at the top of tank. No signs of injuries and water parameters all normal, it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 That fry is the same as the adult, which is a big band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I thought it was a L270. But both are in the tank at this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Fair call, On the 270 the lighter stripe is usually less than 1/2 the width of the darker stripe, where the 140 has a same sized band of light and dark. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Cool thanks for the learning. Any thoughts on potential reasons of both deaths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Sorry to hear about your deaths. The adult looks like an L270 to me. Hopefully they'll be a few more babies in there. Not sure about the young one. It could be either at that size. Geoff will have a better idea than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 It hasnt stopped there. I had another look at the tank and found another 270 within an inch of its life. So fished it out and put it in a hospital tank. Decided to pull the tank apart and found this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Could this be bloat? I lost the third one tonight and cut it open and it kinda popped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 What are you feeding them? I lost a whiptail a while ago and I put it down to too higher protein food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hikari algae wafers, hikari sinking carnivore for the plecos. Then any left over flake, NLS cichlid, bloodworms and white worms that the blue emperor tetras don't eat. The worms go in once a week, Hikari products 2 or 3 times a week. In reflection more carnivore tabs are going in then the algae wafers. Are you enjoying your new replacement whiptail.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Lost another over night. All 4 have been L270, makes me think something specific too them as all other fish are "seeming" fine at this stage. This one did not have a bloated gut, so I am seconded guessing the bloat thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Are you enjoying your new replacement whiptail.... Yep but that one is just an addition to the other royal, I lost a red whiptail and a Phill Collis special whiptail. My Plecs get mostly Hikari algae wafers and jbl novo pleco now plus veges, A good read on pleco feeding here http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... ary-Thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 have you added anything recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Thanks for thr link, I have read that several times before. But its still good too read again. have you added anything recently? Fluval 3 internal filter the day before this all started. 24 blue emperor tetras added over three weeks in groups of 8 The food being feed has dramiaticly been changed over the last four months. They were only getting left over flake and aquaone budget pellet with the odd salmon pallet when I remembered. The tank has changed from a community tank owned by my flatmate to a pleco tank since then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Lost the 5th and last 270 this morning. Checked the temp and it was 22.3, pulled the heater out and found a cracked heating elemint. I suspect this to be the cause of the deaths. Has anyone with 270's kept them at a low temp like that for long periods of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 From what I know they prefer the upper range of 27-29c dude so you're probably right and it was the cold temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 The heater was set at 27 for that reason, with a bit of flacuation from cold water changes it never seemed to go under 24.5 roughly but if the heater was busted and it slowly went down then a cold water change on thursday would of dramaticly dropped it to 22 for a couple days. NOT COOL at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Sorry to hear about your losses. I'd say you're right about the heater. At such low temps you plecos would likely not feed and you may also have problems with excess food fouling the water. If its a big tank you might want to go for two heaters so you have a backup and your heating will be more even across the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Lost the 5th and last 270 this morning. Checked the temp and it was 22.3, pulled the heater out and found a cracked heating elemint. I suspect this to be the cause of the deaths. Has anyone with 270's kept them at a low temp like that for long periods of time? hmmm not that low but I kept my L270 at a stable 25oC for 3 years and then he mysteriously died, maybe my water was too cool for his liking in the long run. Have now got an L168 as the temp seems to be more agreeable and he/she is way more visible which I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry to hear about your losses. I'd say you're right about the heater. At such low temps you plecos would likely not feed and you may also have problems with excess food fouling the water. If its a big tank you might want to go for two heaters so you have a backup and your heating will be more even across the tank. I hadnt feed for a day or two thinking it maybe bloat, but I will keep an eye on that over the next few days. Tank is 200LTR, and it was a 300W heater.I replaced it this morning but still the temp hasnt increased :facepalm: :facepalm: Have now got an L168 as the temp seems to be more agreeable and he/she is way more visible which I like. There is a L168 in this tank with no issue. The super baffeling thing to me is that it is only 270 that have died all other fish have been fine. Well all are still alive at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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