randomsam1001 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Do we get them in NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=61250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Just because its on the list or not doesnt mean we can/cant get them... Would have thought such a senior member round here might have some slightly more helpful and relevant advice rather than just fobbing someone off to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Watch it Rabid, i think you will find as a scientific name nor number has been given the list has been supplied to aid the poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Hi randomsam1001, Gold spot dwarf plecos (Parotocinclus spilosoma) are on the approved list but I haven't personally seen them here. They are a cool looking little pleco and would be a neat alternative to their relie the pitbull plecos (P. jumbo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Thanks Flatfish, definetly looking at the pit bull plec if I can't get the gold spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Just because its on the list or not doesnt mean we can/cant get them... Would have thought such a senior member round here might have some slightly more helpful and relevant advice rather than just fobbing someone off to the list. Ouch - that hurt, some people are not very nice!! I gave the maximum amount of information I could based on the information given which was all I could do working off an ipad. I am not a plec expert nor do I claim to be however I supplied a link which would show the poster which plecs were allowed in the country and that is better than nothing imo. The pitbull plec is a neat little plec, I have three of my own - 1 male and 2 females however no luck in spawning as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Ouch - that hurt, some people are not very nice!! I gave the maximum amount of information I could based on the information given which was all I could do working off an ipad. I am not a plec expert nor do I claim to be however I supplied a link which would show the poster which plecs were allowed in the country and that is better than nothing imo. The pitbull plec is a neat little plec, I have three of my own - 1 male and 2 females however no luck in spawning as yet. Your info was actually quite helpful. Are the Pitbull plecs hard to keep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 No, they are not hard to keep but to be honesthe substrate as a camouflage. I have found it took a while to get mine to eat algae wafers but they now seem to disappear overnight. I have them in a species only tank with plants, rocks, driftwood, trying to encourage them to breed. Compared to fancy plecs these are very plain. To be honest, if you are after something that will be seen in your tank but you don't want a bristle nose - you can get stunning looking long fin bn these days - although you still want something relatively small that will show itself in your tank you might be better going for the big band tiger plec. These tend not to hide as much but be 'out there' more. heres a link with a pic on this site viewtopic.php?f=23&t=44040. I don't know how big they get but I believe they are one of the smaller plecs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 This is just for my 30 ish litre swordtail fry raising tank and I figured they stay relatively small and probably won't bother the fry too much. Thanks All, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I realised part of the scientific name of the pitbull pleco is otocinclus. Probably a stupid question, but are they like oto's and fall dead for no apparent reason some day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Almost completely different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 The only difficulty I had with mine was getting them to eat, I do realise that in that they are similar to ottocinclus (who really only eat brown algae and seaweed). The pit bulls at the LFS seem very healthy though and do eat dried foods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 They both belong to the same suckermouth catfish subfamily (Hypoptopomatinae) but they belong to different groups (tribes). So they are related but not closely. Otocinclus tend to move throughout the water column whereas pitbulls spend most of their time on the bottom. According to the experts Parotocinclus species need clear, unpolluted, oxygen rich water, and they can be tricky to keep. However, pitbull plecos seem to be an exception as they are collected in large numbers in waters polluted by human effluent, so I guess thats makes them fairly hardy. They are apparently best kept in groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 No, they are not hard to keep but to be honesthe substrate as a camouflage. I have found it took a while to get mine to eat algae wafers but they now seem to disappear overnight. I have them in a species only tank with plants, rocks, driftwood, trying to encourage them to breed. Compared to fancy plecs these are very plain. To be honest, if you are after something that will be seen in your tank but you don't want a bristle nose - you can get stunning looking long fin bn these days - although you still want something relatively small that will show itself in your tank you might be better going for the big band tiger plec. These tend not to hide as much but be 'out there' more. heres a link with a pic on this site viewtopic.php?f=23&t=44040. I don't know how big they get but I believe they are one of the smaller plecs. And the big band tiger plecos eat algae well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 To be honest I don't know. Google is not helping me much either. Flatfish, Rabbit, KrazyGeoff, Jamos, Kiwiplymouth, from this forum, might be more help than me. Try sending a pm to them. There are others who have good knowledge about plecs as well but these are the ones I know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Planet catfish is a super handy tool as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 And the big band tiger plecos eat algae well? No algae in that tank :bggrn: They don't get as big as a bristlenose. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 just bought a big band tiger pleco. eating algae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Cool. Congratulations. They are a great looking pleco and if it doesn't eat enough algae you can always get another one to keep it company. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 actually looking at that :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I think I might have one( came in as pitbull Plec) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 It certainly looks like one. Nice find :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Well its a very Fat female and needs a mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Well its a very Fat female and needs a mate... hmmm - so they not all pit bulls then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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