camtang Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Can anyone please tell me of some absolute no no foods for africans. Im talking like the whole no chocolate food dogs type of thing. Anything from first hand knowledge or websites will be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 feeding african cichlids minced up door to door salespeople is a bad thing suposedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I think both the chocolate and the dog would be nono foods for cichlids? :rotf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 feeding african cichlids minced up door to door salespeople is a bad thing suposedly First hand experience or web reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I think both the chocolate and the dog would be nono foods for cichlids? :rotf: I will clearafy that. no feeding chocolate to dogs thing. :thup: Would dog actualy be that bad for a cichlid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 the liver would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 You probably want to be more specific than "african cichlids", what is staple diet for one species may be a no-no for others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 good point, but i was more thinking is there things that are poisions in general insteed of having to do a trial and error type thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 dunno only thing I'd be a bit cautious with is avocado. are you thinking of making your own paste food or something??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 yeh I am aware avacado is dodgy for animals, nah was actualy cooking fish for dinner tonight and cut a couple small bits off and threw it in a tank and thought after mmmmm what if that is poisinus to them.... hence why i asked on here. but now you mention it I may make something up just for a bit of variation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 oxheart and bloodworms can cause bloat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 i was told to never feed africans blood worms by several members on a ozzy forum after i had been feeding them it for years with no issues :roll: so it really just depends on what species you are feeding and what quantity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 yeh I have heard similar, but I feed mine them maybe once a fortnight and havnt had an issue.Thats mbuna, haps and some tangs ( not tropheus sadly) so maybe it just becomes an issue if it becomes a staple food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstar99 Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 You might find this handy. Could also check there home made fish recipes too. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/f ... chlids.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 i was told to never feed africans blood worms by several members on a ozzy forum after i had been feeding them it for years with no issues :roll: so it really just depends on what species you are feeding and what quantity africans in general can suffer from bloat. Malawians i found to be less likely to get it as i used to feed a wide variety of food. Several bought fish foods, sushi wrap, shelled peas, blood worms, even steak but with the tropheus i'm not prepared to run the risk of them getting sick so i stick to NLS. My opinion on feeding random foods to the malawians is everything in moderation and give them a variety, it worked well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 don't feed them any cooked foods, meat with fat in it, or liver. i don't think raw chicken would be very good either with everything it carries... (correct me if i'm wrong) no citrus. stick to veges, not fruit. avoid feeder fish especially if caught in the wild or if you don't know whether they are disease free. most of all - do not over feed! most cichlids are greedy and given the chance will eat way more then they need! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Why not cooked foods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 most of all - do not over feed! most cichlids are greedy and given the chance will eat way more then they need! i always over feed, even the tropheus and never had any issue. you do need enough filtration for that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Why not cooked foods? because naturally fish can't cook... i mean, they don't even have kitchens. therefore in their natural habitat they would never eat cooked food, unless offered to them by humans. not saying it's harmful, just sayin'... keep it natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 i always over feed, even the tropheus and never had any issue. you do need enough filtration for that though. if over feeding is not an issue to you, maybe that is because you're not actually overfeeding? makes sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 because naturally fish can't cook... i mean, they don't even have kitchens. therefore in their natural habitat they would never eat cooked food, unless offered to them by humans. not saying it's harmful, just sayin'... keep it natural. would dead food they find be potentialy slowly boiled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 would dead food they find be potentialy slowly boiled? boiling point is 100 degrees... it would be rotten before it was cooked in any way... in saying that i wouldnt even feed my fish rotten food. fish in the wild can eat stuff that makes them sick. i'd prefer not to risk it with my babies... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 if over feeding is not an issue to you, maybe that is because you're not actually overfeeding? makes sense... food is sitting on the bottom often hours after feeding, that's not over feeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 because naturally fish can't cook... i mean, they don't even have kitchens. therefore in their natural habitat they would never eat cooked food, unless offered to them by humans. not saying it's harmful, just sayin'... keep it natural. what's the process for making the commercial foods like NLS, Sera, JBL etc? Is that cooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Cooked then processed so it is easily digestable, quite different to feeding cooked meaty foods. I certainly wouldn't feed anything like cooked fish/prawn/etc, there simply isn't any benefit for it, and I know of people (myself included) who have had fatalities that [on the surface of it] can't seem to be attributed to anything else. TBH I don't know why people feed all sorts of "stuff" to their fish in the name of variety. A mix of quality foods will provide all the variety and nutrients they need, so unless you have an obligate piscavore that won't touch processed food I see no need for it. If you're doing it because its cheaper than buying quality pellet foods then thats a different story all together, but I don't believe for a second that there is any nutritional benefit to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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