Morcs Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Wondering if this will be fine, will be BB also. Just looking at the tank, and from experience should be ok, just looking for other opinions. Other dimensions are adequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 depends on the length and wha tyou wnt to achieve. i have seen 50 cm arowanas in less than 40 cms of water level. kinda mean though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 With a juvenile. Not an ideal size long term, but borderline. 1250x40x35. Missus wants an oscar, so i said we will get one for a while at least seeing as though got good filtration etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 for a juv, i dont see a problem ay. they are pretty small. thats a good size tank to grow out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 for a juv, i dont see a problem ay. they are pretty small. thats a good size tank to grow out For upto a year, depending on growth. No powerfeeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I wouldn't have thought that would be an issue? Width and length are more important imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizons Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I have a half grown Oscar living by himself in a tank 60cm x 30cm x 30cm. Minimum decoration, good filtration. I don't plan on getting him a bigger tank any time soon. He will be able to turn around quite easily and can swim his body length when full grown. I've had no issues at all. Very active, always swimming happily, coming up for food etc. Don't listen to the idiots that say an Oscar needs 60G of water or whatever - they're full of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I have a half grown Oscar living by himself in a tank 60cm x 30cm x 30cm. Minimum decoration, good filtration. I don't plan on getting him a bigger tank any time soon. He will be able to turn around quite easily and can swim his body length when full grown. I've had no issues at all. Very active, always swimming happily, coming up for food etc. Don't listen to the idiots that say an Oscar needs 60G of water or whatever - they're full of crap. :spop: :spop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizons Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 :spop: :spop: Let people start flaming me. This thing is my baby. If he seems happy and acts happy, then in my opinion, it isn't a problem. People keep full grown Arowanas in 5ft tanks that are only 2 ft wide. The things can't even turn around properly and aren't able to swim their body length. Yet thats apparently perfectly acceptable. At least my Oscar (lovingly named Oscie by my girlfriend) can swim around and turn around happily. No stunting whatsoever. Add some quality filtration, perfect PH etc and I don't see a problem. The second he starts looking sad, he will get a bigger tank. But right now it is perfectly happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 But right now it is perfectly happy. Told you so itself, I bet... There is a difference between a fish surviving and thriving... Don't listen to the idiots that say an Oscar needs 60G of water or whatever - they're full of crap. Yes. Those "idiots" that have kept these fish for years. The "idiot" biologists that have researched these things, studied and qualified at "idiot" universities... Yeah, really dont want to listen to those "idiots"... Probably best to sling your hook from here too. Packed full of those "idiots" 'round here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I stand with cricketman here. What evidence do you have to say that he is not stunted? Could be a monster of a Oscar with a bigger tank. I object to keeping him in a small tank too. Many turtles are kept in small tanks and when they are older, they have multiple health issues. Maybe not the exact same issue but there are some key similarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Let people start flaming me. This thing is my baby. If he seems happy and acts happy, then in my opinion, it isn't a problem. People keep full grown Arowanas in 5ft tanks that are only 2 ft wide. The things can't even turn around properly and aren't able to swim their body length. Yet thats apparently perfectly acceptable. At least my Oscar (lovingly named Oscie by my girlfriend) can swim around and turn around happily. No stunting whatsoever. Add some quality filtration, perfect PH etc and I don't see a problem. The second he starts looking sad, he will get a bigger tank. But right now it is perfectly happy. so while your fish is eating and swimming he is happy. when he stops doing that you will get him a bigger tank. nothing wrong with that logic at all...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 depressed people still eat and walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 and when they stop moving it's usually too late to help them. (Just clarifying my previous sarcasm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 love this my fish is happy stuff hear "oh look the puffer is smiling at me" everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Jingos! I want an Oscar real real real bad, but would never get one if I couldn't cater for it as its needs changed! They grow so fast, and are such majestic fish when kept in an adequately large tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Oscars need more than that; minimum 200L sources say, but I think they need more volume than that. It WILL stunt in that tank, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Oscars need more than that; minimum 200L sources say, but I think they need more volume than that. It WILL stunt in that tank, no doubt. it WONT stunt in a tank this size. In my opinion it has better dimensions than the minimum recommended 55g tank size - extra depth so the fish can actually turn around. 55g's are VERY narrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 it WONT stunt in a tank this size. In my opinion it has better dimensions than the minimum recommended 55g tank size - extra depth so the fish can actually turn around. 55g's are VERY narrow. You're joking right? I had a 50G which was deeper than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 You're joking right? I had a 50G which was deeper than that. standard footprint of a 55g is only 1ft from front to back. Plus this IS just a grow out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 A local restaurant was given an oscar...the tank is 55 gallon. I know nothing about keeping these fish but when I look in that tank and see this beautiful large creature; even I know the tank is not big enough. It makes ME unhappy Just my opinion, Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 People keep full grown Arowanas in 5ft tanks that are only 2 ft wide. The things can't even turn around properly and aren't able to swim their body length. Yet thats apparently perfectly acceptable. A; I have never met anyone who had half a clue about keeping fish who with think the above scenario is acceptable. B; there is no such thing as a full grown fish. Unlike people fish continue to grow up until the time they die, although their growth does start to slow considerably as they get larger. You are obviously either naive and arrogant or heartless to think that your fish will be fine in that tank, I have seen many large oscars in ponds and public aquaria overseas, and I would never even dream of keeping one in anything less than about 500 litres regardless of what internet experts may say. There is a huge difference between surviving and thriving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuri08 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Fully agree with david here.i wouldnt even keep neon tetras in a tank that size.give your fish away and give up on fish until youre actually sane enough to realise how to take cate of living creatures.seriously u need to think about those living under your care grow up and see things as they are just because u lile watching the fish and they obviously amuse your small brain to watch something go back and forth get a fake tank off trademe and watch that.leave the fishkeeping to people who actually want to provide a proper life to there fish :an!gry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Pete I was referring more to the other guys tank size. 55g can hold an oscar for a while but eventually a larger tank would be required, which is what i assume you are doing anyway. I don't think the height of the tank will be that much of an issue a this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I realise that this is a controversial topic but we need to keep the personal insults out of the posts. The idea is to have an adult discussion that could lead to the altering of perspectives, rather than a slanging match where nobody comes out any better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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