Vervo Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hello all, Our Jager 150 Watt heater has been going great for the past few years, Now, since winter has arrived, it seems to be under-performing. We usually keep our tank at around 29 degrees, and setting the heater to 29 has always achieved this give or take a small amount. Now, the tank is sitting at 26 degrees, and i bumped the heater up to 31, but it hasn't seemed to help. Could this be the cold weather? Or is this a trait of a heater on its way out? (The heater size is correct for the size of the tank) Cheers :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Time to replace it. Who know what its doing but why risk it. Heaters , in my opinion , are only good for a couple of years. Yes some will go for ages but I use caution and replace it before it dies and kills all my fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirio Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 How long have you had it for exactly? I think they have three year warrantys. Not too sure though, I think mine has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vervo Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 How long have you had it for exactly? I think they have three year warrantys. Not too sure though, I think mine has one. Im guessing around 2 years, but it could be more. No way id still have the receipt anyway hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 usually they get a odd looking build up inside the heater if its on its way out, not uncommon for tanks to drop in temperature over winter tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vervo Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Ive put our spare Jager 150 in the tank, Here is a pick of the one in question. It does have a build up of bubbles inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 It is not time for a new heater; but more likely time to recalibrate your heater. Search this forum for detailed instructions on how to recalibrate the Jager. The thread pops up about twice a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vervo Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 It is not time for a new heater; but more likely time to recalibrate your heater. Search this forum for detailed instructions on how to recalibrate the Jager. The thread pops up about twice a year. Thanks i will try that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vervo Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Re-calibrated it, and this morning, the tank is still at 26 degrees, Ive also tried the spare Jager 150 we have, same result. So i think the issue is because our flat is an icebox. Going to try using two Jager 150's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 The picture is of moisture inside the heater and it could corrode the make and break points and weld them together causing cooked fish syndrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I agree with Alan, I tend not to risk heaters with moisture inside for the sake of saving some money. Cooked fish will cost me a lot more then a heater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I agree with Alan, I tend not to risk heaters with moisture inside for the sake of saving some money. Cooked fish will cost me a lot more then a heater. I'd be buying new heaters every week or two if I did that. I don't think I've ever had a heater that didn't have moisture in it. They've all lasted for years. I even had one that would have boiling water at the bottom end of it, still worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 lol really! I have only had one that had moisture in it, itshorted it out and all the springs let go from the bottom. Made a hell of a noise and flash. Enough to put me off for life. I have felt electricity go through water into me and out the ground, not pleasant to say the least :-? The risk isn't worth it for me, considering heater is worth far less then the stock in the tank. I have had an aqua one 300w for 3 years now, not a drop of moisture in it. I have 5 smaller aquaone heaters all the same age all without moisture. Any that collected moisture I took back. Over cautious perhaps but better safe then sorry as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 230v shocks suck, 110v shocks feel really really weird - more of a tingling pins & needles sensation Just thought I would share that with you while someone mentioned it :sml2: Condensation is pretty commmon in heaters, if you have them vertical the heater will prevent it, but if its on an angle you will get hot and cold spots on the heater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vervo Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 My tank is 140L and the heater is max 150L, my house is like an icebox. So im guessing it might not be able to keep up with heating the tank past 26. I tried with another heater the same thing. So now im trying with 2x 150L heaters, will see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Just make sure they're positioned vertically :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Cause that's how they're made to be used. For most brands the warranty is voided if you don't them vertically: Angled/horizontally is how you get hot/cold spots and internal moisture :nilly: EDIT: I'm a nerd and read all the fine print of the things I buy for my tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Why? thanks. I was going to ask too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Bugger... all my of my 28 heaters are void of warranty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Bugger... all my of my 28 heaters are void of warranty huh, same. I doubt eheim expects their 300W heaters to be run vertically in all instances. I can barely stand them vertically in my tank but most 500-600L tanks wouldn't be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I've only ever installed one heater vertically. The manuals do say install vertically, but I'm unsure if the warranty will be voided if you do not. Either ways there is no way to tell the position of a heater in a tank if they are inspecting it for a warranty claim. In fact; it's not one of the things they check for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 what do they check for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Tampering to see if someone has tried to open the heater at home. Pretty easy to see as the plastic parts get damaged due to excessive force. Then they look to see if the heater has been damaged because someone did manage to open it without damaging it. Sometimes they just test the heater depending on what the rep reports the problem as being (usually the customer's perspective) and replace it if it's going to involve too much work / time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vervo Posted June 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Just an update, using 2x Jager 150 in our 140L tank seemed to do the trick. The temp is sitting on constant 29 degrees. I now have a reason to dislike winter :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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