waterlogged Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Ok so here we go For the first time I am going to try breeding fish on purpose instead of them just appearing in my com. tank. I have 5 questions atm but will be adding more to this thread as they arise. to answer type 'A' and the number question your answering to save typing time. :thup: 1. If I was to spawn diff fish separatlyand then put them all in the same grow out tank would they be ok? looking at panda corys, GBAs and angels. 2. Will GBAs and Panda Corys eat angel fry? 3. will GBA fry eat white worms? 4. will dim lighting affect their growth 5. If I use A planted tank as a grow out, what are some big no nos? i.e. types of substrate, types of plants/ ferts, strong flow Thanks heaps guys James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Ok so here we go For the first time I am going to try breeding fish on purpose instead of them just appearing in my com. tank. I have 5 questions atm but will be adding more to this thread as they arise. to answer type 'A' and the number question your answering to save typing time. :thup: 1. If I was to spawn diff fish separatlyand then put them all in the same grow out tank would they be ok? looking at panda corys, GBAs and angels. 2. Will GBAs and Panda Corys eat angel fry? 3. will GBA fry eat white worms? 4. will dim lighting affect their growth 5. If I use A planted tank as a grow out, what are some big no nos? i.e. types of substrate, types of plants/ ferts, strong flow Thanks heaps guys James Most adult/teenage bottom dwellers wether by mistake or not can come across fry and suck them up, but if you have good parents they should do a decent job keeping them away from the fry. I think for the most part, at least in the beginning you will be fine growing them out all together. Just make sure you do plenty of small water changes and plenty of fry foods like BBS and fresh vege for the GBA's, shrimp pellets work as well, Bare bottom tank would be best if your going to feed live foods like white worms and the GBA should find them on the bottom and will chow down if they don't have time to disappear into a substrate. Dim light shouldn't effect anything accept plant growth as long as there is some form of day time for them. All my fry live in planted tanks but that's because i have food holders at the top and adult fish in the tanks, so they eat as they go, without letting any live food spoil in the gravel. just normal substrate and common plants, i don't use co2 or additives of any kind. Hope this helps and good luck on the breeding Do you have a large culture of white worms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Sure does thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 While you can grow out any combination of fry I wouldn't really suggest it. Perhaps Pandas and Angels will do fine together as they are both carnivores, however GBAs are herbivores so really shouldn't be kept with them. The GBAs you can leave in the tank with their parents, its actually much easier that way. Feed them lettuce leaves that have been soaked in boiling water for a minute, dont boil them, just soak. The Corys you will want to do very regular feeding and water changes for the first 2 weeks, feeding microworms and BBS (others feed Decaps Brine Shrimp Eggs but mine didn't go for it). I haven't bred angels so I cant help you out there, Im sure someone else will point you in the right direction. Ive heard if you raise Angels in taller tanks they get higher fins so that might be something you could look into. My 2 cents worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 I would leave them in my com. tank with the parents but It's is way easiest to catch them just after hatching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 6. would adult pandas or Gbas go for angel fry? I know the cories may go for their own as their infront of them but will they go for fry that are swimming about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 If the fry are free swimming it shouldn't be too much of an issue. New borns will get devoured though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 I used to breed thousands of angels and corries and raised the offspring in bare tanks. Spawn the corries in a bare tank and they will act as better cleaners than snails, then add baby angels when free swimming. Feed both on brine shrimp nuplii and microworms. I have not added gba but they should be OK if you add vegetable food. You would need a large tank to raise a good spawning of all three together. A bare bottom tank makes it a lot easier to control waste and excess food. Hang a 150x150mm piece of slate near the top of the tank and the angels will probably spawn on that, then remove the eggs to a small tank with a drop of meth blue and an airstone. They can't get eaten if you remove them. Feed them every time you walk past the tank and do a water change on the way back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 7. Ive heard if you raise Angels in taller tanks they get higher fins so that might be something you could look into. Is this true? I was offered a 150L rect. tank or a 110L hexi tank and thought the rectangular one would be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 The fin damage is caused by bad water conditions. Large tanks and lots of water changes is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 sweet will stick to the 150L then. water change after every feeding? or more than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 The old saying works pretty well. Feed them every time you walk past the tank and water change on the way back. With bare bottom tanks you can afford to overfeed a bit if you siphon the excess off before feeding again. Good water gives good growth and fins. Short burned off fins in angels is bad water and overcrowding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Hey guys another angel breeding question here, well more of a breeding problem lol. Ok so I have set up my tank and am trying to breed my silver angels who have already laid eggs twice before in my com. tank. But every time I went to catch them they would huddle with my other 2 Silvers and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I pretti sure I know which are the males and females, 2 of each, and have put all 4 in the 150L breeding tank for now till I can see who is who. Here's the problem. It seems to me that the females are sticking together and casing the males to opposite ends of the tank. Can you pair up any male and female or do they "bond" to the spacific fish? Because I'm thinking of just findind the dom. male and putting him in with one of the females and cross my finigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 You should get two more angels of similair size if the tank permits and some dither fish in there, livebearers will do, plenty of spots they can hide or breed on, plenty of plants, water changes and live foods or whatever is handy. Adding more angels will help balance the agression, as well as dither fish, which move fast and are bright etc, helps distract aggresive fish. This way you may end up with more pairs, but are garunteed atleast one pair. When one pair is succesful, remove remaining fish and find out if they have the stuff it takes to be good parents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 150l will be sweet for 6 angels and dither fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 yea but then I need places to put those other fish lol I think I figured out who was who. the pair has spawned a few times already just didn't have a tasnk suitable. I've put all my GBA babies in as their to big to be mouth size any more and they'll love the room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 yea finally after sussing out who was who I have eggs =p layed on the filter of all places lol so going to see how they go before I fully babie proof it. I don't have any methyle blue but have a wunder tonic which has it in it, would I be able to use this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Wunder tonic has quite a few other things as well. Can use meth blue, acriflavine or malachite green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 it has all those three and nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 It also has quinine if I remember correctly. You don't need to add anything realy, it just helps to slow the spread of fungus from infertile eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 ok sweet as. I'm seeing if there parents do what their suppose to or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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