anthony law Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 what the max hight can i go in 10ml. the base area 5000x 1000 x ? but ive may make two tanks ...2500x 1000x ? next big tank....sss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 cant help you on your question but man your tanks are big! what fish have you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 im more thinking of going 2500x1000 what themax high can i go in 10ml.. Zayne Post subject: Re: 10ml glass quetions cant help you on your question but man your tanks are big! what fish have you got? ive just finnsh my 2800+ liter tank so im thinking to do antor two big tanks..one aro tank only. and the antor as a marine set up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_S Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Just ran those dimensions through and 2500 x 1000 x 600 with 10mm comes out at safety rating of 2.5 which should be sufficient as long as the bracing is done properly. Im no tank builder so please correct me if im wrong guys. But if you wanted to be super safe 500 high comes out at 4.0 safety. It depends on what you are keeping and whether you need a deep tank i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 2800 LITRES HOLY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxnz Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 what the max hight can i go in 10ml. the base area 5000x 1000 x ? but ive may make two tanks ...2500x 1000x ? next big tank....sss You should ask a glazier company for spec.. that what i did, and they still get it wrong! :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 The calculators are all on the main page, just plug in numbers, ideally you want a safety factor of over 3 but in reality most tanks have one of around 2.5 which is good.. I can only assume that the 10mm is not laminated etc? Do you have access to lots of 10mm glass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 go 60cm high with the width you have got it makes it harder placing rocks and cleaning etc except if you can walk all the way around it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 The calculations are based on the tank being properly braced---Either a supprting steel frame like in the good ol days or european bracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 thank you guys it give me food for thought for the new year. i see anthor project coming up :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: look like im go 2500x 1000x 600 high..x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Is the base 2500 x 1000 in 10mm? If that is the case then the height wont matter to much becuase the base will probably crack. Even at a safety factor of 2.5, which is not ideal when you are talking about 1.5 tons of water, you should have 14mm base. Ideally you should be aiming for a safety of 3.8 so 16.5mm base. If you are planning a 5mtr x 1mtr tank then a 20mm base or a double layered 10mm glued together and well braced would be a safer option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 If the base is properly and completely supported it doesn't realy matter how thick it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 If the base is properly and completely supported it doesn't realy matter how thick it is. Exactly, but making a base that takes virtually all the weight and is flat is quite difficult. Basically the base is not allowed to deflect at all along its length, width or diagonal if it's to take all the load. Then the glass only works to seal the bottom of the tank and it will support almost any height of water if the front, back and side glass is strong enough and the glue holds... A well braced steel frame will provide enough strength if designed properly - but we're talking about pretty big steel here. It will need 2 x 150mm x 50mm RHS one placed above the other with about 300mm gap between them for each supporting block. These will need 50mm x 50mm uprights on approx 400mm centres and 50mm x 50mm diagonal bracing between each upright. The same will need to be done with the front to back bracing as well with at least 4 of these supporting blocks front to back. On top of the RHS frame you'll likely need 2 x 40mm triboard laminated with no-more-nails glue and glued to the steel frame. The tank should sit on top of the wood with approx 12mm poly while the glue sets. Then the wood will form to the bottom of the tank and the glue will fill the gaps between the wood and frame. Then you'll have a frame rigid enough to support the bottom of the tank. No deflection (or minimal deflection) means no force effecting the tensile strength of the glass. When installed, packers may need to be installed under some of the corners of the frame so it stays flat. Good luck - it would be an excellent tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Maybe the bottom should be made out of thick plastic, more than strong enough to deal with deflection from an imperfect stand so all it really needs to handle is the occasional scratch from substrate, rocks etc and to stay watertight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 have my 1 metre wide tanks on timber base 12 x 2'" outer frame 3" x 4" posts, checked in 4 x 2 cross members 25mm ply over top 20mm poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 is that the ligth bulb that bite nymox ,,,,hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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