ryanjury Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Great to hear P44!. Can you tell me if offspring can be bred with offspring? Or is this a big no no! It is debatable in fish, someone once put it "it is called line breeding when it goes well and inbreeding when it goes bad". You are never going to get any better fish if you keep breeding within the same gene pool, and it can eventually cause issues. No doubt 99% of the fish we get in NZ have been inbred for many generations most fish farms overseas wont really care about inbreeding or any of that (until it results in less fish being produced or getting to sellable size). I would continue to breed but if you are noticing large numbers of deformed fry or things going wrong/really weak fish or anything like that then it would be time to investigate or try and find new blood. There was a perfect female here that was double red x wild that would be brilliant for introducing new blood into this line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Also, remember in the wild there is often geographical isolation in some environments. This means some fish have no choice. Take killis for example. How many seasons have the same genes been passed through due to the fact that they are living in pools that dry up during summer. As Ryan stated, we dont really have too much choice in NZ with Apistos. Most that come in come on the same shipment from the same hatchery and likely the same parents. I say with Apistos just make do with what you have and breed them. If opportunity arrives to add new genes then by all mans take it, but sometimes beggers cant be choosers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danval Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Thanks for your replies guys... On a different subject, I counted about 40 double red fry all growing well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yeah, I think i have seen the result of interbreeding at work! .... If you hear banjo's, paddle faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Thanks for your replies guys... On a different subject, I counted about 40 double red fry all growing well! Well done that is an awesome batch size for your first go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danval Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Thanks Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Just caught up with this. I counted about 40 double red fry all growing well! That is awsome news. Best of luck that sounds like you are doing a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danval Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Thanks Bilbo!. I have only got this far through sifting through old posts from the likes of yourself, Caserole, Hans to name a few... Of recent, Ryanjury and P44 have been so helpfull! . Still a way to go but hopefully we can get the double reds and other species "out there". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
land_lubber Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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