Top one possible fryeri female.

Middle one possible mbuna hybrid.

Bottom one, needs a better pic, but looks alot like the Asti x blue dolphins that were (and probably still are) being passed around in Christchurch as astatotilapia calliptera.

As with everything where did they come from and what did you buy them as?

I brought them in a bulk lot of fish off trade me, most of them were listed in auction but these ones wern't and i have no idea what they are lol, I have had them for quite some time now and have allways wonderd what they were, I will get a better pic of the 3rd one

Here is a better pic of 3rd one

Fair to say that 100% ID on any would be a "best guess" situation

Yeah I did mean to say in my post they were guesses.. Buying random cichlids in a bulk lot and trying to id them later generally doesn't work so well..

i don't think there is much doubt that the first one is a fryeri, the others are a lottery.

i don't think there is much doubt that the first one is a fryeri, the others are a lottery.

so couldn't be, FryeriX, Ahli or Ahli X, Azureus X or lithobates X.

so couldn't be, FryeriX, Ahli or Ahli X, Azureus X or lithobates X.

you can make whatever assumtions you like, my opinion is that is what it is. If you want to be paranoid or negative about things, are there any pure fish in NZ at all & if you think this is or is not themn prove it either way. this is a topic that no one can really prove who is right or wrong & someone that wants to argue the point can for as long as they wish.

wasn't my opinion and indeed my perogative to question your assumption valid based on your point.

I'm sorry if that has offended. Not Playing Devil's advocate because someone may be offended is not healthy.

I can see that there is an argument for your ID based on the image but...

The point as you say is whether you want to steer someone in a direction of an ID based on a "not much doubt" premise.

I would have thought the more scientific and responsible conclusion would be not to ID a fish as something when it comes from an environment of hybrids.

Your perceived thoughts on negativity or paranoia are noted but seem erroneous.

wasn't my opinion and indeed my perogative to question your assumption valid based on your point.

I'm sorry if that has offended. Not Playing Devil's advocate because someone may be offended is not healthy.

I can see that there is an argument for your ID based on the image but...

The point as you say is whether you want to steer someone in a direction of an ID based on a "not much doubt" premise.

I would have thought the more scientific and responsible conclusion would be not to ID a fish as something when it comes from an environment of hybrids.

Your perceived thoughts on negativity or paranoia are noted but seem erroneous.

all good, i am not offended at all. discussion is healthy & this is only a forum on the net

these situations IME tend to be more based on each persons ideal of what is right or wrong rather than an even unbiased decision on the single situation. I look at each situation & make a decision on the facts of that case. In this case that fish looks to be indentical to they 5 females i have in my tank so i am reasonably confident of it being of good breeding. If it looked different then i wouldn't have commented the same way. Others wil say "Its in a mixed tank so therfore it is a hybrid", condemning them without the facts or even giving it any serious condsideration.

Awesome thanks for the help, that gives me a better idea then my no idea

totally with u on this one!!!

you can make whatever assumtions you like, my opinion is that is what it is. If you want to be paranoid or negative about things, are there any pure fish in NZ at all & if you think this is or is not themn prove it either way. this is a topic that no one can really prove who is right or wrong & someone that wants to argue the point can for as long as they wish.

Did u want all fish in pics ID well attempted? Which ones do u know the names of?

Frenchy

yes please, I didn't know what any of these 3 were that is why i put them on here to see if anyone knew, sometimes people ask me what they are and is all I can say is I don't know. It would be nice to say what type of fish it is or hybrid etc..

It is hard to say what the fish are really, even if hybrids they may have thrown back to what created them all I can say is the top 1 resembles a fryeri female the other 2 I don't really know

they are african cichlids of various types and some of possibly mixed parentage

though one looks like my astatotilapia moorii, another like my fryeri, then a blue zebra and a peach or red zebra

astatotilapia moorii

love it

sorry, yea I know the dolphins and the others are red zebra, It was the browny fish in the first photo and the blue fish in the second photo that I was unsure of

sorry little bit fishy my reference to astatotilapia moorii was about some hybrids i have

can you get clearer pics of the fish

we can tell you what species the fish look like but can't guarantee that that is definitely what they are as so many rift lakes fish can interbreed quite freely

Here's a better pic of the 1st one, yea I realise that

well thats a electric blue fryeri female we have a breeding group spawning at the mo

Here's a better pic of the 1st one, yea I realise that

also how big is it ??

well thats a electric blue fryeri female we have a breeding group spawning at the mo

well thats a electric blue fryeri female we have a breeding group spawning at the mo

You mean it LOOKS like an electric blue fryeri female there is absolutely no way of telling if it is or not without DNA testing, it could well be a throw back from a cross or some entirely different species we don't seen very often that is what everyone is trying to say on this thread..

well yeah it LOOKS like a female electric blue fryeri :oops:

You mean it LOOKS like an electric blue fryeri female there is absolutely no way of telling if it is or not without DNA testing, it could well be a throw back from a cross or some entirely different species we don't seen very often that is what everyone is trying to say on this thread..