breakaway Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Ok I got it all sorted, the silicone is pretty bad at sticking the line to the bottle. Next time I will be making the hole smaller. Here is how I did it: 1. Build co2 bottle using yeast / sugar / warm water using 1.25L bottle. 2. Run air line from the bottle to the intake for my 200lph power head. And that was it - The impeller in the power head (which is also hooked up to the UV Lamp) does a fair job of mixing the CO2. It seems to have been bubbling out at a very constant rate since 12pm this morning. I'm very pleased with this setup - seems to be doing the same job as that $90 CO2 reactor kit sold in stores - and it only cost me $5 to make. The air line was the most expensive component. Also - should I. Be turning off the CO2 at nights after lightsout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I run tube from the yeast mix bottle to a smaller 300ml bottle then another tube from that bottle to the powerhead. This acts as a fail safe setup in case the yeast mix over reacts etc so that the yeast mix doesn't get sucked into the tank. I also add 1/4 tsp of baking soda to the mix as i am on rain water and I use the active yeast mixture for bread making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I got mine running today. I used a 2.25 L coke bottle which pipes into a 1.5L coke bottle, I'm currently using an air stone to diffuse, but I may buy a proper diffuser if it works. The mix I used is 2 teaspoons of bakers yeast, 2.5 cups of raw sugar, and half a teaspoon of Marmite. I left the cap off for about 15 mins, and then screwed all the caps on, and waited. Now my air stone is pumping out bubbles like no bodies business, so I may have to adjust my yeast mixtures down to 1 teaspoon and see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaway Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I got mine running today. I used a 2.25 L coke bottle which pipes into a 1.5L coke bottle, I'm currently using an air stone to diffuse, but I may buy a proper diffuser if it works 1. It does work, perfectly 2. Airstones are useless at defusing, most of the CO2 will simply bubble up to the top and be released (This is what just about every DIY CO2 site I've read says) Also - do you guys who have been using DIY CO2 turn it off at night? My aquarium is only 38L and I'm worried that this CO2 might be overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Also - do you guys who have been using DIY CO2 turn it off at night? My aquarium is only 38L and I'm worried that this CO2 might be overkill. Got one on my 27L running a 3L juice bottle at about 1 bubble every two second, no diffusion needed. Leave it on 24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 1. It does work, perfectly 2. Airstones are useless at defusing, most of the CO2 will simply bubble up to the top and be released (This is what just about every DIY CO2 site I've read says) Also - do you guys who have been using DIY CO2 turn it off at night? My aquarium is only 38L and I'm worried that this CO2 might be overkill. the air stone is crap, but diffusers are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 If the bubbles are making it to the surface then barely any of your CO2 is being dissolved into the water and thus is not accessible to the plants. You don't need a diffuser. Stick the end of your tubing into the filter intake. By the time the bubbles go through the filter into the outtake they will be absorbed...as several people already mentioned. Diffusers are $20 on Trademe the air stone is crud, but diffusers are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I have a hang on back filter, can i still jam it up the intake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Yup. You can snip a little section out of one of the little plastic guards at the bottom of the intake and just stick the tip of the tube in that. The bubbles travel through the intake and then get hit by the impeller which will help diffuse them. The sponge also help diffuse any of the left over ones before the water flows back into the tank I have a hang on back filter, can i still jam it up the intake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I ended up drilling a hole in the bottom of the pick up, and jamed the tube in. Seems to be working, as there are no large bubbles hitting the surface, i might take some pics tomorrow of the whole setup if anyone is keen to see what i have done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaway Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 anyone is keen to see what i have done.. Yep - lets see it! Here's mine (You can see the tube go into the intake for the UV filter on the top right hand corner of the image). Tank is an Aqua One AR380 (~34L with standard 400 LPH trickle filter). Certainly more discrete than the ridiculously huge bubble counter that comes with the Nutrafin kitset. Some VERY minor bubbles come out of the filter outlet - so I'm guessing the rest of it has dissolved in the water successfully. I decided to use the UV filter + powerhead to distribute the CO2 instead of using the built in trickle filter because I was unsure how having the water pumped up into the spray bar, down through activated carbon, through a sponge, and then through the ceramic noodles and finally back into the tank would affect the efficiency of the CO² mixing into the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I just wanted to share this article. Its pretty comprehensive and well written and it explains exactly why to do a step http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/sh ... p?t=152401 Great article. It was interesting to see that too much sugar is not only a waste of money but it also impeeds the yeast's ability to produce CO2. Here's mine (You can see the tube go into the intake for the UV filter on the top right hand corner of the image). Tank is an Aqua One AR380 (~34L with standard 400 LPH trickle filter). Certainly more discrete than the ridiculously huge bubble counter that comes with the Nutrafin kitset. Some VERY minor bubbles come out of the filter outlet - so I'm guessing the rest of it has dissolved in the water successfully. I decided to use the UV filter + powerhead to distribute the CO2 instead of using the built in trickle filter because I was unsure how having the water pumped up into the spray bar, down through activated carbon, through a sponge, and then through the ceramic noodles and finally back into the tank would affect the efficiency of the CO² mixing into the water. Nice set up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaway Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks jenniferh - I saw what you did with your AR380 and it was absolutely stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks jenniferh - I saw what you did with your AR380 and it was absolutely stunning. Thanks! Your pic there has inspired me to do something different now that the comp is over. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks! Your pic there has inspired me to do something different now that the comp is over. :roll: There's another one with a deadline mid-year, enter that one too 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 There's another one with a deadline mid-year, enter that one too 8) Don't get me started Sam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Don't get me started Sam! C'mon... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaway Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 There's another one with a deadline mid-year, enter that one too 8) Where's the link to that? Been searching for a while now, can't find it :lol: Might enter it 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Where's the link to that? Been searching for a while now, can't find it :lol: Might enter it 8) I don't think there is an official link yet, but this is the link to the discussion about it: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=42998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Ill take some pics of the entire set-up tomorrow and post them. I might have to dig out my ar380 then, and set up something. When I upgraded to my ar620, i put the 380 under the house thinking i wont need that again lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Ah...and mts sets in... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Multiple Tank Syndrome? I have a 60x30x30 setup in the garage, which is really more of a home bar/man cave, as I have carpet heaters, pool table etc, the 60x30 is plants only at this stage, Was contemplating a goldie in there though. I have the 620t in the house, and now have some real estate on my desk, suitable for the 380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Excellent. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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