aquadude Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Sorry folks I hope that this isnt a dumb question is a fancy like a purebred? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 People can charge more if they say they are fancy guppies Same goes if you give them a fancy name :roll: Fancy, as far as I can tell but I don't keep guppies, usually refers to the longer and/or different shaped tails. A common guppy has a spade or rounded tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 wild guppies are small, rainbow coloured and have short tails. Fancy guppies have fancy tails - long or different shaped, special colours and patterns etc, and are bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 oh and wild guppies have clear tails, sometimes with swords, and mongrol fancy guppies can have wild colouring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I guess the real difference is that a proper fancy guppy is line-bred and should breed true to type, whereas most petstore guppies could throw anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 i thought fancy guppy = not wild pure/fixed strain fancy guppy for ones that breed true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 i thought fancy guppy = not wild pure/fixed strain fancy guppy for ones that breed true. that's what I thought too.. but I'm just new at all this. I do recall reading somewhere that a fancy guppy are just the ones bred colourfully for pet/breeder and show ownership as against one's you'd find wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Fancy guppies are line bred to fix the strain. A good breeder will seperate the males from females at an early age to obtain virgin females then breed the best of them to the best males to obtain and maintain good quality fish. If you just let them breed they will deteriorate in a few generations. So called wild guppies are often just a strain that has been been left to breed and has reverted to rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 they haven't reverted to rubbish! they're wonderful guppies in their own way, almost like a seperate species compared to the fancies. But its hard to find nice ones that don't throw babies with signs of fancy breeding - half black, big tails etc. Should we settle on calling them mongrel fancy guppies, fixed strain bred fancy guppies, and wild-type guppies? Of course lots of muddled up crossbred fancy guppies are nice enough to be bred into a new strain, so then they'd become fixed fancy guppies too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Yes. But of course you would need to fix them rather than let them do their own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron_fish_mad_guy Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Ive bread 8 generations of guppies so far from my original ones, to get larger yellow and black spotted tails and dorsal fins, they still throw odd offspring!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 maybe because you're not supposed to make bread from them thats the wonder of guppies though, there's an almost infinate variety of colours and patterns that can pop up unexpected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I'd like to split a tank into three and breed a strain selectively. Males on the right, females on the left and unsexable fry in the middle. *Tilts head upwards and starts to dream* :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 i leave the fry in with the parents, and pull the males out at about 2 weeks when they are sexable, but no where near ready to grow gonopodiums. Then when the girls have grown a bit but not ready to drop their first ones i choose which ones i want to breed, and move the extras out to join the boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_fish Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 twinkles – I'm just starting out with guppy breeding and find it damned hard to sex guppies before the boys show their gonos – how do you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I'm pretty sure females when they're young (really young) will have a dark gravid spot and that's how you can seperate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 by the end of the first week you can generally detect the gravid spot in females. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 yup, by the gravid spot. If they're too hard to study in the tank, put them one at a time into a glass and hold them up to the light. And don't feed them for a few hours before hand so they don't have little black poo dots :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Fancy guppies are normally distinquished by their large tail shape and size. Wild guppies (endlers) tend to have more body colour and smaller less coloured tails, they also seem to be much quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkles Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 wild guppies and endlers are different again from each other, though whether they are seperate species or just different strains is still under debate. And yep they're both alot quicker than fancy guppies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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