Dave+Amy Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Day two - looking good, eggs still on the leaf, dad and mum taking turns at being protective at times chasing each other away. It's halarious to watch them fanning the eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Came home after work - too late for the local petshop so couldn't get my sponge filters for the fry tank. Found the Anubia leaf looking grazed so am guessing either the SAEs or GBAs got to the Ram eggs - am a little bit bummed I'm getting my breeding set up tomorrow so I'll isolate the breeding Rams when the new tank's cycled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 You'll probably find the rams ate them. They're usually pretty good parents so it's unlikely they let something near enough them to eat. They should spawn again in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Oh well at least I've got a week or more to set up the livefoods...does anyone know how to distinguish between sexes of Gold Rams? Not too sure if I have a pair or just two that live together in close proximity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 my males ussually have a bluey tinge one the back half of thier body and the femaqles have a piny belly also their bottom fins closest their tails are different. Post a pic of them both if you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Got my breeding tank set up from Peter today totally stoked Check it out: Cam - the one I think is the female seems to have smaller dorsal fins and fatter than the male, the one that I think might be a male has got that blue sheen to his body. Cannot get a good pic of them, they've set up home in the Indian Fern wall, vigorously chasing the other rams away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Very nice ...have to be the flashest breeding tanks I've seen so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Amy: This is what the Ram eggs should look like. This is a pic of one of my 3 pairs of breeding rams. I gave them away to a friend who is having a lot of fun breeding them. the fish were about a year old at this stage. (you should be able to see the eggs on the gravel if you look closely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I love that breeder tank. Did he make it or buy it like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Phoenix44 - I need a pic of distinguishable/sexable Gold balloon Rams, I know my Blue Rams are a couple 'cos they laid eggs. Cam - Peter made that tank to my specifications, I can't fill it yet have to let the silicon cure first. It's a 180L tank divided into 3 tanks and I can always turn it into one big tank by taking out the perspex dividers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 golden balloon rams eh? sorry can't help. have you tried googling it. I know its better to know for certain off someone who has bred them but failing that google may help. lol I haven't bought rams since these guys cause they just seem to die within a few months for no apparent reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Yeah I heard that these guys die fast - hence trying to get some frys out of them before my little guys hit the expiry date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'll try get a pic for you. My gold rams lasted a while, I had 1 male who was really big and conditioned up and 2 females who were always pink and full of eggs (I probab;y should've bred them :roll: ) but we went away on hoiliday and one of the females died and then I put the male in a hospital tank (he had a white pimple under his eye) and the other female died then I got 2 younger ones and the male died but they lasted over a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Oh so they last a decent time...awesome as looking forward to giving breeding these little guy a good go. Has anyone successfully bred their store-bought Rams repetitively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Heres a pic of my old gold rams (the only decent one thats close enough to see any difference) Males at the back and females in front. The male is bigger and has a blue sheen at the back half of him (the pic doesn't show it very well), also has extended front few rays on his top fin. Also the bottom fin closest to his tail is longer that the female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 cool thanks for that Cam..now I know for sure that I have a pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oeminx Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Pair of rams been at it again here is a video from part way into the spawn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsqN7IWEVHE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Awesome video....hope you end up with wrigglers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 awesome vid - good luck with yours! Mine have had their home taken over by the Blue Rams since I replanted the whole tank so they're homeless at the moment. I'll have my breeding tank up and running this week so hoping both the couples can hold on from spawning for a few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Rams spawned again today, saw the female cleaning the pot surface at lunch and found this in the afternoon: Hoping that they won't eat the eggs again this time, might remove the dad after wriggler stage. How long do others leave the adults in, if you leave them in at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Best to remove the female now and leave the dad to do the job. They will fight over the eggs/fry and can kill each other. The female will want to spawn again after a week or two and can end up eating the first spawn. good luck, ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 the dad ate all the eggs the mum only ate the eggs that went white. Oh well next time I'll be taking out both the parents for safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 or just take the eggs out and put them in a bucket with meth blue and a air stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 that could be a WAY easier option, how do you take the pot out without the eggs coming out of the water? Does it matter if the eggs were out of the water for a second? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 get a container big enough to hold the pot (or what ever else they laid their eggs on) then put it under the water on the bottom. then put the pot into the container and lift the whole container out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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