Southerrrngirrl Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Sure I'll check that out with the vet. I'm all for desexing as soon as possible. I don't mean to.. stereotype our neighbour but she does seem... like the type to not properly care for an animal. She is a solo mum, works at the local pub and was "out on the piss" on Sunday afternoon when we first went round to see her. The house is a complete mess, and the garage were the puppies are was not very clean either. I agree with you lmsmith, I think I would take better care of puppy! At least with me it would have more to sleep on than some dirty old bed sheets. And would I be right in thinking that puppies shouldn't really be drinking cows milk? Cos that was the neighbours plan. I'm going to check with the vet today, I'm assuming there is some sort of puppy formula that you can get? We didn't really get the chance to observe mum with the pups. She was locked in the garage with them when we arrived, when the door was opened, she came flying out, stopped to briefly see who was here then took off and didn't even look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 hi igot my pup at 10days old well i got three from to the litter to rear coz the mum had 15 and only had 11teats (one pup died)so i took 3 and fed them up i kept the smallest one that was 18mths ago and our tiny runt grow into a huge monster(hes a good boy just didnt think he would be so big) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtv Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Just be very careful about bottle feeding. I worked for the SPCA for many years and bottle feeding can be heart breaking. Even with the best 24/7 care puppies can fail on the bottle. Mum really is best. But if you are sure that mum is not feeding and the pups are in dirty conditions then by all means take her and make sure the other pups will be cared for. Get in touch with you vet and discuss bottle feeding with them as they will be able to give you the best advice. Bottle feeding is exhausting and they really need the care of a dedicated owner like yourself as it will most likely be every 2 hours for a little while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Therein lies another problem. I work full-time. Workplace is an office and is 45 minutes from home. I'm stressing over this now. All I've done this morning is google all sorts of things, from what I gather they could be just about ready to be weaned now anyway? But still its far to early to leave mum and the litter as its still learning critical socialisation skills etc. Last thing I want is to have a puppy that develops bad behaviour because it was pulled from its litter too early. My plan was to get it like just before christmas so I could be home over christmas and take some leave afterwards to do all the necessary training and bonding etc. Then put puppy in to daycare until its old enough to be left at home during the day. If only I could take maternity leave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 can you get a friend family you could get to pop around to check on it dont worry to much when i had my three i used a weatbag(keeps heat longer than water bottle and they dont roll off) and when i was going out fed them lots and left soft biscuit(wet)and water then as soon as i got home gave more wet biscuit soaked in puppy milk with grated dog roll by the time they were 5wks i cut down on soaking them and anding a little more crunch(they got raser teeth for a reason) the end reasult was i got three healthy puppy to rehome and they didnt get knocked on the head(thats y i took them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 We don't have any family where we live. My parents are in town though, but don't really want to dump this sort of responsibility on them as they are not experienced with dogs at all. Since my last post I've had a thought that just might work. There is a lady who runs the local cattery were we live. She loves animals, and it just so happens that one of her fox terriers has just had puppies in the last month, possibly around the same time as our neighbours dog. So.. maybe we could work some sort of arrangement out where she looks after our puppy for us until its ready to be separated. That way it will get the socialisation skills and care needed, that we can't provide just yet. I don't know if she'll be keen but its worth a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I have two harlequin great danes (guard dogs) who are trained for verbal and non-verbal commands. and do everything from sitting to going to the left and right to forming guard stances etc....they even have an attack command that can only be executed by one of the family. you can teach them not to accept food from strangers Dave's parents had one attack trained Doberman and two guard trained Dobermans over in the States and they never ate without permission from Dave's dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 yep... that sounds about right. none of our dogs will eat food from anyone without the approval of a family member. the danes - Zeus and Poseidon lead the pack and the others follow behind.very good guard dogs - have had no unwanted visitors on the property for about 5 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Apparently people need permits to have attack trained dogs in NZ? They got rid of all three Dobies when the kids came along because they were only loyal to Dave's dad so they could easily mistaken a child's outstretched arms as a threat unfortunately plus they wern't cheap either at almost $20K per dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Why would anyone want an attack trained dog?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 to guard a property? keep pesky nosey parkers out of it? lol my whole life i grew up with ppl wanting to know every little detail of the internal workings of my family. 2 danes and several subordinate dogs later - n0 more! lol AMY - lol... i know what you mean about expensiveness. lol... pretraining the dogs were USD15k. my dogs never minded kids - then again we never had kids around the house.... they'd destroy everything, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 a properly trained dog will obey all commands they should be taught to recognise friend or foe and to stop immediately when told to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 you got that right! I get so angry when i see badly trained guard dogs / dogs that are blamed by owners who need more training than the dog itself. i mean if someone cant train a certain breed of dog then they shouldn't be allowed to have that breed or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 i think it applies to any breed maybe people should have to sit a license to own a dog to ensure they can control it properly some say we should have the same to have children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 lol thats exactly what i said in one of my "If i owned NZ" speech.... permits for kids and pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 as a 10yr old kid I was attacked by my best mate's guard dog my mate was inside and I showed up at his house, but the dog got me before he knew I was there. It leapt up and bit my face, knocking me to the ground. It then bit my head and neck repeatedly. the dog was an argentinian dago and it would have killed me if I hadnt yelled so my mate came outside and called it off. I still have a few scars on my head 10yrs later. It was a wonderfully bahaved dog and stopped instantly when told to, but when no one was there to tell it to stop, it wasnt going to. The problem with a dog trained to attack people is that you cant be with it 24/7, and if a friend comes by without you realising, or without you being there, then the s**t could hit the fan in a very bad way, it almost did with me, even though I had met the dog 100 times before, it had never been without my mate there (or his sister ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 some say we should have the same to have children haha too true! I work in a cafe/ice cream parlour and the number of times I've wanted to smack little pesky kids hands touching ice cream cones and leaving smudge marks on glass cabinets :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 the dog was an argentinian dago Aren't those dogs on the black list? (like you can't breed them or import them anymore just because a few morons are using them to dog fight) Our fam friends have one of those beasts for hunting - when I saw it I was like holy f***en huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 one of the reasons that breed is on the list olly not a nice experience for anyone to go through let alone a youngster some people breed dogs for agression some breed for look or confirmation to a standard with no regard as to temperament some breed for companion or family dogs ie temperament some of the breeds have had a purpose for many generations, predisposing them to certain types of behaviour after the breeding comes the types of people who get them even the smallest breeds need proper training and socialisation mostly the behaviour of dogs is a reflection on the humans in their lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 most people think only larger dogs are affectionate but I stand to differ, my 5kg PekingneseX is so loyal - Dave and I were walking our dogs Lucky(a German Shepherd X) and Midori when this pitbull X cross broke free from it's owner's grasp (it's owner was a complete moron skateboarding and holding the leash - of course it's a no brainer) and ran at my dogs and both Midori and Lucky lunged at it after I screamed (and almost cried)...when we eventually pulled al the dogs off we found our 10yo German ShepherdX pinning the rouge Pitbull down by it's head - so relieved none of our dogs got hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Update on puppy for those interested: she is now in the care of the lovely people at the local SPCA. They are going to keep her there for 3 weeks, get her vet checked, wormed and vaccinated then we can pick her up on the 15th. I have pics of her from when she was with us during the weekend so will post some tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 That's awesome, I'm glad she's being well looked after until shes old enough to come home to you. Can't wait for pics!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yeah I'm really stoked that they were able to take her in and care for her. I was stressing so much after having no luck in being able to find anyone to look after her during the day. She's a real cutie. Must be at that age were the personality is just starting to develop. She barks a little and its so cute. Wags her tail like mad when she's exploring the house. And when she comes across something that she's not sure of, she sort of bounces back then gets brave and goes back for a sniff. And its funny to watch her run, she's not completely coordinated in that area yet. And walking on the kitchen vinyl is a bit of a mission for her hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 ahhh that brings back memorys wait till you take it for a walk in the dark, they acting all brave but scared of even a rubbish bag hahaha :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Here she is.. this is literally minutes after we got her taking a snooze on hubby's lap. and this was from this morning. I was cleaning up a puddle she had made, when she decided that the paper towels looked like a fun thing to play with. I decided that it wasn't such a good thing to play with so gave her a face cloth instead. So she happily dragged that around the house, before deciding it was time for a little nap... on the face cloth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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