Charlie Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I do understand when you are dealing with Live stock the risks do go up. Thanks... So any builders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 At your age you may have more patience than me when dealing with Maf. I sure hope you do and wish you all the best in your new indeaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camnbron Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 just as an aside have you looked at 2nd hand cool stores or an insulated container IMO this would be a good idea - I think this is what wonderworld use for their quarantine facility and it is transportable - maybe an easy way for another importer to expand their facilities as it would be modular. It would also mean that if the proposed importing business did not meet expectations then the container could more easily be on sold to somebody else - since it wouldn't be a building on a property. Logically, to me, the container shouldn't attract any interest from the council since it is not a building but a movable container (makes sense to me!!) so could be a cheaper path to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Councils take different views on containers both under the Building Code and District Plan so often you cannot just dump it there. It is not unreasonable to class it as a relocated building if that is what it is being used for. You can say that if you use it as a building it is a building. As well as that a quarantine facility needs to be approved by Maf (who require the approval of the District and Regional Council) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I'd use H3.1 treated timber (usually used for outdoor stuff like decks) to be on the safe side. I wouldn't use kiln dried LOSP treated (H1.2 or H3.2) timber for in a damp humid environment like a fish room. H3.1 is LOSP treated, its the H3.2 that's usually used for outdoor stuff like decks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 If the framing is subjected to the weather or dampness from inside the building there is something wrong with the linings and the way the building is designed and constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 what do these containers look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 shipping containers try these guys http://www.royalwolf.co.nz/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 so one of those containers with plumbing and power would meet the requirements for structure in the regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 so one of those containers with plumbing and power would meet the requirements for structure in the regulation. is that a statement or a question ? and have you checked the definitions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 The answer may well be no. Contact Maf as well as the Regional and Local Authority. They are the people who will decide, not us. The requirements vary in different locations because different location vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I was just wondering, becasue someone wrote that they are used my another facility. Will ring on Tuesday to check. Will re-read the MAF's website to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 How are you going to treat waste water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camnbron Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 I was just wondering, becasue someone wrote that they are used my another facility. Will ring on Tuesday to check. Will re-read the MAF's website to check. Yup like I posted before, that is what Wonderworld in Rotorua are using for their marine quarantine facilities. I do not know what modification work is required to meet the MAF standards but Harold told me on friday that they had passed with flying colours what I understood to be an annual check by MAF. Sound like your dad can probably help you out in regards to the council requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 H3.1 is LOSP treated, its the H3.2 that's usually used for outdoor stuff like decks Thanks, its been 3 years since I left Carters, I knew it was one way or the other... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 How are you going to treat waste water? I have a septic tank. If approved by MAF then it will go into that. If not I will get a 500 liter drum, burry it and run a connection to the building so water can go into that then be treated according to MAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Your septic tank size is determined by the potential occupancy of the dwelling it is serving and will not cope with added loading from fish tanks and water treated with chlorine to Maf requirements. You may need a discharge consent from the Regional Council as well as a seperately designed disposal system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Yeah, the chlorine required will kill off the septic and you'll just have a tank. May be ok if you empty it every couple months though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 The last thing you want to do is put more water into the septic tank. My parents had endless problems with theirs until they set up a separate grey-water sump for the shower/sink/washing machine etc. The only thing that needs to go into the septic tank is the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 When I was importing the Chlorine treatment required was 50ppm for 48 hours. You can neutralize the chlorine with sodium thiosulphate but that does not get you around the volume of water problem. A septic tank size is determined to give a 48 hour retention so increased volumes will simply flush the solids and destroy the disposal system. Using Sodium thiosulphate to neutralize the chlorine will also cause another problem called salinification which also destroys the effluent disposal system. There is a section in the building code which explains that. As I mentioned earlier you should discuss these issues with Maf and your Local and Regional Councils because the issues will be different in each location as the circumstances will be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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