4 Foot Tank

[markoshark]

Hi,

I'm looking at getting a 4foot x 1.5 foot x 1 foot tank.

Discussing what sorta fish to get.

Easy to look for + community fish + pref. cheap.

Shark x2

Siamese Fighter x1

Rams x4

Pearl x4

Rainbow Blue & Red, x2 of each

Couple of Whiptails

Bunch of Neons (10-ish)

And a ghost knife. Which I suspect is where I may have a problem of fishies going missing at night.

Unsure of what types of plants to get, any suggestions?

[wilson]

what type of shark are you getting because most will get nippy when older

and its advised olny one pet tank

:-?

[markoshark]

Silver shark.

Mate has one in his tank, and so far, its the tiger barb that is eating the fins off his angels

[wilson]

hmmmm i think there ok in groups

[snookie]

silver sharks can grow big ! 12inch + ,ghost knife will eventually eat the neons

[Afrikan]

Best to keep Tiger Barbs in groups of 6 plus, it keeps the niggly interest amongst themselves instead of hassling anything else in the tank... however on to be on the safe side, I still don't recommend keeping anything with alot of floating finnage in the tank, Fighters in particular. Your mates angels might be left alone if he hads another 5 or more Tiger Barbs to the tank or if he's not keen on that idea, then he might have to part with the Barb, as it will only keep fin nipping.

BGK's will take out any smaller fish when bigger, they have a very big mouth, they also grow VERY large, around 40-50cm in length, so might pay to keep that in mind

Crypts (plants) are relatively easy, and you can get all sorts of variations I love them.

[Adrienne]

Hi, barbs and male fighters are not compatable as the barbs will nip and shred the male fighters fins and tail.

[markoshark]

Yeah.

Next question. Would a shark (fully grown) have enough space in that tank?

[sharn]

id say just. theyre like thick, solid bullets at that size. im not sure how they would be as a lone fish though, especially as they are schoolers by nature, i think they would be quite flighty.

[Alan]

By the time it grows to its full potential, it should have learnt how to do three point turns.

But

By then the person may have got it a more compatible tank.

Moral is that little silver sharks grow into big silver sharks.

Their mouth gets bigger also, same as their diet.

Got it??

[Caryl]

Remove the fighter (it will be nibbled), sharks (too big) and ghost knife (don't think they are cheap and will eat the neons and other small fish).

I would swap neons for cardinals, rummy noses, harlequins or similar (although they are dearer than neons).

[GZ_Loach]

black phantom tetras are cool and hardy. and the best plants are silk plants 8). silver sharks like swimming around so usually the biggest tank you can afford would be best for them.

[Tsarmina]

general rule "if it will fit in my mouth. i'll eat it"

and a ghost knife has a very large mouth

[markoshark]

Silver Shark x3

Siamese Fighter x1

Pearl Gourami x4

Boesemani rainbow x4

Pleco of some description.

Ghost knife (Either Black or Brown - Apparently brown stay smaller... - Verification?)

And possibly another couple of whatever catch my eye.

Blue Rams?

If the Fighter does start to get nibbled, i'll put him in a smaller tank, with some neons, possibly cardinal, or Rummynose.

[markoshark]

Siamese Fighter x1

Pearl Gourami x4

Rainbow x4

Tetras (whatever I choose at the time) x10

Pleco x2, possibly Whiptail?

Blue Rams x6

Suggestions?

[GZ_Loach]

note: neon tetras die easilyand Blue Rams are the coolest little fish you can buy. And i wouldnt get two plecos i.e 2x common/goldspot/redspot etc, as they fight over food. Bristlenose's stay smaller and are breedable

[sharn]

sounds like a workable mix to me id advise waiting till the tank has been established a while before adding the rams, and possibly the whips depending on what species you get (not sure how sensitive they are). rams are fairly sensitive fish and often have problems in newly set up tanks having a browse thru sites with tetra profiles may help you decide what species of tetra you want and that would save you potentially buying fin nippers only to have to return them

not sure if the gouramis and fighter would hassle each other though, i havent had any experience with the pearl gouramis.

[markoshark]

Thats cool.

Turns out i'll be getting a 3foot, by 1.5x1.5 instead, due to size constraints, and luck of trademe. Will the lack of an extra foot change much?

[SpidersWeb]

4ft x 1.5ft x 1ft (1200x450x300) is 162 litres, 3ft x 1.5ft x 1.5ft (900 x 450 x 450) is 182 litres.

The 3 foot tank is actually bigger than the 4ft you originally asked about.

Normally 4 foot tanks are a bit bigger, often in the 200-300L range.

[markoshark]

Cheers!

[subzer0]

my red fin shark has been eating everything else in the tank. we got down to four fish in our four footer last week, shark had to go on holiday :evil:

[Adrienne]

I've had red fin sharks in a community tank before with a fighter, neons, guppies and swords and apart from the occasional - get out of my way, I'm coming though!!, no problems at all.

[GZ_Loach]

all fish have a different personallity, just like people. So when people say this fish is usually well behaved or rarely kills fish then just remember you could be the unlucky person who bought the emotionally disturbed fish :lol:

[markoshark]

emotionally disturbed flatmate(s), can't get unlucky more than twice!

[markoshark]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=94672318

Ah, new tank

Any recomendations about how to turn it from marine -> Freshwater?

Lots of water, discard filter media, anything else?