ikan Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 just bought a couple of killies on impulse because they look great. now i found out that they have to be in different tanks. whats the best way go about it as i have a few 2ftx 2ft tanks but i dont want to have 6 heaters going! in 6 tanks. some suggestion please some "expert " told me that aeration will kill the northos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 When you say that you bought two killies, what did you mean? Two males of the same species? A pair? Two, but different species? What species were they? Why do you need to put them into different tanks? Finally, where did you get them from?? Ifthey do have to be separated, a divider in a two footer would be ok. But be very careful, those fish are expert jumpers. So you will need to block them out of the tank and also from over the divider. I find a garden hose, split lengthwise, is a good implement to close the gaps in the areas referred to above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikan Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 When you say that you bought two killies, what did you mean? Two males of the same species? A pair? Two, but different species? What species were they? Why do you need to put them into different tanks? Finally, where did you get them from?? . bought them from TM a trio of P82's 1 x trio of gardneri nigeriatum 1 x trio of australe choc's 1 x trio of australe gold's 1 x trio of gardneri nigeriatum pairs of degati if i put them together, would they not cross breed? all my tanks have no covers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoban Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Covers can be made quite inexpensively with the plastic craft mesh sheets or the difusor panels for office lighting. The mesh can be used to divide tanks aswell with having to add addional pumps heaters etc. Water flows through but the holes too small for fish. Really small fry might be able to get through though but you can always separte the species before they get mature enough to x-breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 a trio of P82's 1 x trio of gardneri nigeriatum 1 x trio of australe choc's 1 x trio of australe gold's 1 x trio of gardneri nigeriatum pairs of degati if i put them together, would they not cross breed? trio of P82's trio of australe choc's pairs of degati 2 x trio of gardneri nigeriatum trio of australe gold's That's how I would split them. If you don't, it is possible for the P82's would cross with the gardneri nigeriatum, and the two australe morphs would also cross. Dageti is ok with any of the others. I have not heard of the nothos with aeration affecting them tho. I'm almost certain that Aquanut has aeration in all his tanks. To get over the problem of multiple heaters, that's so easy. Build a fishroom. Go on. You know you want to. Even a wardrobe can be converted and heated only using a light bulb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Or if you have them in a warm room you won't need heaters. i have my killies in the living room and all the tanks do not have heaters in them and they are doing fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I wouldn't recommend someone in Wellington not having heaters in there killi tanks ( except the australe ) Wok. I can't remember weather TM has bubbles in his tanks or not. However I know when I was breeding Notho's big time they had a small sponge filter in with them - no problems at all!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Ahhhh... But my killies do not have the lemming gene in them :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikan Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 trio of P82's trio of australe choc's pairs of degati 2 x trio of gardneri nigeriatum trio of australe gold's That's how I would split them. If you don't, it is possible for the P82's would cross with the gardneri nigeriatum, and the two australe morphs would also cross. Dageti is ok with any of the others. I have not heard of the nothos with aeration affecting them tho. I'm almost certain that Aquanut has aeration in all his tanks. To get over the problem of multiple heaters, that's so easy. Build a fishroom. Go on. You know you want to. Even a wardrobe can be converted and heated only using a light bulb. so this two groupings would work! thats great! as for the fish room, i have the whole garage and heating might be costly. i could seal of the fish stand and turn it into a warm cupboard! would putting two tanks side by side and having the 300w heater in one work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 ikan wrotewould putting two tanks side by side and having the 300w heater in one work? Not really. What you can do is get a tank built that is divided into many tanks = say 1200x600x300H divided into 5 compartment you would need a heater at each end and 1 in the middle. Enclosing part of your garage is what may of us do. A relatively small space can house a lot of small killi tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Aquanut lives in a rented house with drive in double garage attached, in it (garage) he then built a collapsible fish room that is buzzing. One silent "The Pump" style pump supplies all the air and more, that is used there. Completly enclosed and well insulated in the building process has ensured that it's running costs are kept to a minimum. He has it fully wired out and also plumbed. What else does a killiephile need other than new species and more tanks. Reading back over that I should be in the real estate business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I have a 1200mm tank in 6 compartments and heated with a heatpad. It works well for killies and you can adjust the temperature by having different water levals. I keep males and females seperate so as to condition them for breeding. I would keep Nothos seperate as they are real good at getting velvet and most people add salt to control it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethin fishy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I have a trio of australe choc's and a pair of degati. What temp do you reckon is the optimium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Australe 18 - 22C. Dageti 24C. If you intend breeding them, the dageti fry will have skewed sexes if bred to hot ( male ) or to cold ( female ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikan Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I have a 1200mm tank in 6 compartments and heated with a heatpad. It works well for killies and you can adjust the temperature by having different water levals. I keep males and females seperate so as to condition them for breeding. I would keep Nothos seperate as they are real good at getting velvet and most people add salt to control it. whats a heat pad? how does it work compare to a sub heater? sorry for newbie question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Heatpads are basically an element that goes underneath the tank, rather than inside, normally they're custom made. Handy when you have lots of small tanks in a row that are too small to fit heaters in easily. IMO the simplist option is just to buy multiple heaters, running 6 heaters isnt a drama, and will use the same power as any other heating method anyway and offers the most flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I find the heatpad works well for me and was cheaper than buying 6 good quality heaters. It also means a bare tank is a bare tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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