Ira Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 You're still not a native. Your ancestors weren't here when NZ split off from Australia. (Or wherever NZ split off of) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 if that is your view then gecko's are not native as they arrived here after nz split from gondwana... oh and nikau palms- amongst other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazara Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 LOL - Back on topic - I had a pair of these fellers a few years ago - however as they got older they looked more like Chinese, but just about every website I checked had different photos. Mine definately preferred land over water, I kept them on round gravel with a small fern & overturned shells etc for cover. Favourite foods were aphid dusted with reptile growth vitamins and, of course BLOODWORM!! Just maker sure there are no escape holes anywhere.. I mean it they can fit through just about any hole and can climb straight up glass. Enjoy, they are fascinating little monsters and don't panic if you see them malting - and they don't need help getting undressed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 LOL :lol: :lol: Love the way you put that last bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 :lol: Maybe a silly questions but did you feed them the bloodworms on land or in the water?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazara Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Not a silly question... I fed em on land because they didn't go into the water much... I believe at the beginning I had to wave them (the bloodworm) around a little to make the newts interested... After a while they learned when was feeding time and would scamper straight to the bloodworm as it defrosted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 I have had four for about 6 months and they have doubled in size. They eat mainly aphids and fruit fly and have given them daphnia and mosquito larva but have never seen them eat the latter or ever seen them in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Thanks thats good to know about the bloodworms, ill be trying that this week when i get some more bloodworms! Ive got some lil (7-8 months old) chinese firebellies and they seem to love aphids and whiteworms, but like alanmin ive never seen them in the water which i thought was odd, maybe they dont go in the water untill abit older and when close to breeding perhaps?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 I have a breeding pair that I don't think that I've ever seen out of the water except when I've been changing them from one tank to another. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazara Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Alan, are yours Japanese or Chinese - I think that may be the difference. Mine looked more like a salamander than a newt - they didn't have large ridges on their tails. If anyones interested I'll see if I can dig up some photos of them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Im always keen to see pics :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Mine are japanese and I have never seen them in the water. but they always come out to play on the land when I give the place a mist spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I rememer reading if you mist or keep the land area moist (like i do) they dont need to go into the water so much as they are all ready hydrated, if that makes sense! So maybe if the land area is kept dry they maybe tempted to go for a swim every so often, just a thought as maybe thats why some seem to stay in the water and others dont :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestothemax Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 well my to japanese are now getting settled in their new home. Thye have so far gone nuts for daphnia and a few of the baby guppys i chucked in and im about to give them some white worms to try it out. I have seen them both in and out of the water. i covered my land side almost competely in moss and its pretty damp so they seem to enjoy that. ill try get some pics up sometime so you can see them living it up in hotel de newt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 wikid sound good, did you use spagnum moss?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestothemax Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 nah my mum grows native plant seddlings and we just ahd all these different mosses growing from those so i just took different pits of that. hopefully they shoudl take off in teh propagating sand that i have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 True sounds abt like what ive done, I do think spagnum moss will be a good idea though and i remember seeing some up in the hills a year or so ago so i may go back and see if its still there!! Heres a pic of my newt setup when i first set it up, now got a bit of drift wood linking the water and land and the plants have grown abit but basically the sme; lil newt stalking some white worms; 2 newts on the rock' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestothemax Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 cool. heres some pics of my two. ill try get some better ones when im not shaking so much?!?!?!?!?!?!? dunno why im shaking either hmmmmm hope this works i havent posted pics before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestothemax Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 hhmmm guess not ........... what have i done wrong anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Its got me stumped because the link works but cant get them to wrk on here, maybe theyre too big for the forum or something, someone else may know how to figure it out? Nice looking newts though, how old and big are they, they look rather big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestothemax Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 yeah i photoshoped them down to be nice and small but yeah who knows. yeah they pretty big, bout 6-7 cm i suppose. hopefully they will keep on growing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I don't know a lot about newts. But I was told by the person reasonable for breeding them at the Napier Aquarium that they had large losses of the young until the stopped feeding them water fleas and only feed micro worms and chopped white worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamestothemax Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 wow i havent heard that before. ill definately keep it in mind if i am lucky enough to have a pair and get some young. white worms will definately be their main diet from me. The daphnia have all been mentioned as a suitable food in the three books i have read on them so far: - Newts and Salamanders (Frank Indiviglio) - Slamanders and Newts (Dr H. R. Axelrod) - Newts: Their care in captivity (Jordan Patterson) but yeah the young ones i could imagine not being able to get them down properly. I guess baby brine shrimp would be a suitable water bound food for babies ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I saw a doco on japanse rice paddys. It included the newts and they were eating daphnia as well as other foods like live blood worms. I only repeated for others to keep in mind, if your main food is daphnia and you start lossing a lot of baby newts this is something to think about but so is fungus infections particularly as they start to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Cynop ... alis.shtml http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Cynop ... ster.shtml dunno if theyre any help or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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