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Dont understand that at all, but each to there own. I saw a marine tank in shocking condition in a restaraunt that we often use , and as a fishkeeper and a paying customer, who cares about the fish, i felt it necessary to do something about it. You frankly, can take a jump, i wonder why i bother with fnzas sometimes with attitudes like this.

It was quiet, didn't make a sound as i was typing it.

I found an e-mail address for him and have left him a wee note.

Went to Auckland for the weekend, and had dinner at Euro bar, favorite place of ours even if expensive. They have always had a marine tank dividing the mens and womens toilet, and generally its been ok, not flash, but clean and looked after. Well, this time was a shock. If there is someone looking after the tank they should be shot. It is small, maybe 300l, 1200 long 60 x 60cm maybe. They had 5 large tangs in there, 3 yellow, 1 blue and 1 Naso, all large, a copperband butterfly, a potters angel, 2 clowns, 2 cardinals, and thats just what i could see. The rocks, sand etc were covered in thick red cyno, and the leathers looked sad/unopen. What the hell!! An expensive trendy restaurant owned by that Simon Gault (all over the tv etc with masterchief etc) and they are happy treat such imported marine fish as disposable. I will post this on all sites, hope that the pill that looks after that tank reads this as I'd love to have a discussion with them, and if i can find an e-mail address for the owner I'll send it to him as well. Just ridiculous.

or cyno?? Pics Please.

They do it pretty regularly, sometimes for a day or 2. Just keep an eye on it, hopefully looking better in the morning.

no, he has a high bioload now for a tank that size fully matured. He is keeping a reef, which is corals and fish. Corals need clean water with very low nutrients, too many fish, which grow quickly, make this next to impossible and the corals will suffer. Its hard to resist sometimes but it is a very small tank in marine terms, and restraint's needed.

yep, looks great, but as you've been told elsewhere, you are really overloading a small tank. You need at least 1 if not 2 decent water changes a week, until you get a bigger tank, and stop buying fish.

Ask away, Coraline will naturally form from your NSW, or small rocks that have weed etc attached, you dont need to add coraline rocks for it to form. I only use coral rock, and thoroughly recommend you only use it as well. It is just perfect for a marine tank, and i really would not trust any local heavy rocks.

Its bare bottom atm. Have used polished shell from way up north, but gets covered in coraline abd loses its look. Run the tanks with lots of current and bb - helps keep the tank clean.

Coral sand, important for a deep sand bed.

Early pics sept 09. Sand bed not yet in - mibble area in sump.

Volume 2 is not out byet is it? Great book, well worth the money and the wait. Had my name name down for years waiting for volume 1 to get published.

2 display tanks, one 1200 x 700 x 550h, and another i call the nem tank 1000 x 500 x 220h, both connected to a 7' sump, that contains liverock, a huge deep sand bed with cockles/tuatuas and a large clear area for return pumps etc. Filtration by the rock within the displays and sump, bed sand bed, and a deltec 902 skimmer. Remember, very few inverts in our local waters use sunlight to produce food, unlike tropical corals etc, so you need to feed alot, and obviously have processes to remove alot of waste.

Keep going, local tanks are great. My local has been going for 2 and a half years, is nicely mature and just ticks alone with feeding and water changes. Just leaves the fun part of collecting stock.

Good post by spoon, stick with coral rock, you know what you're getting, you have anaerobic and aerobic areas, the rock is basic, safe and wont leach. Look for the "rocky" type coral rock rather than the "coral skeleton" type coral rock as it looks more natural in a local marine tank. You will at times add small pieces of local rock as some of the goodies you collect will be attached to it, so this will add all the micro life you need.

I meant the pic of the coraline, you know how i love a good coraline!! Chevrons are stunning, hard to pass up.

thought you might have put that one in for me

That tank has changed alot since i last saw it, great coraline growth Fay, very healthy all round - congrats.

Tried, but the baby i colleced didn't make the trip home. They keep tropical ones overseas, but really require there own tank. They are voracious predators.

Yep, Ira's right, local cuttlefish, they can change colours in an instant.

good advise that.

1) Brain Coral - favites spp or favia? 2) Ditto 3) Closed leather - Toadstool - Sarcophyton spp. 4) Pineapple coral - Caulastrea furcata 5) Mushrooms, zoos, and a piece of Euphilia. 6) Montipora Capricornis 7) Fish close to a Parazoanthus coral (i think) 8 ) Button Polyps - palythoa spp i think 9) Spine cheek or maroon Clown in an anenome 10) Sailfin Tang 11) humbug Damsel 12) Yellow Polyps - Parazoanthus gracilis My best guess's anyway.

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