zuri08

ive seen your clowns henward they are very healthy and happy.i will post some pics of the clowns today.i cant help that the clowns were in a ph of 7.8 when i bought them butihave put them into there enviroment they are used to therefore have avoided stressing them trust me they are super happy and healthy

oh well so it looks like some people have some underlying issues maybe themselves if they cannot grasp the fact that these fish when brought in were in 7.2-3 ph and then gradually entered 7.8ph which now over 1/2 years old are thriving healthy fat clowns with loads of personality if a fish is not thriving and just survivng there personality dimiishes dramatically i just rehomed my last goldfish which i had had for 13 years and was 40 cm so i think i can justify that my fish will grow older than they usually would and live a happy healthy life.i dont really care about what sites say when i can gather personall experiences and act on them alone not some american sites that have too much time on there hands.its funny that im getting critised for keeping fish in there conditions there use to should i have put them in my guppy tank at 6.4 ph and then shock there system.therefore i would have put them into a water chemistry there body is not use to and would have been criticised for that aswell.i can truly see why people on here leave the site after posting acouple things and being criticised even in the welcome area i think some people on here should really lighten up and actaully offer help not there own personal feeling as education outways critcism.there is some very nice people on here and very helpful aswell shame about the others though :roll:

na wouldnt be the ph.i think they just need time to get use to there surroundings and unfarmiliar areas just give it time probably dont feed them until you notcie a change

i wasnt refering to you caryl dont worry :thup: the loaches can definetly defend themselves but my africans arent aggressive towards other fish just amongst themselves yea the cichlids are such a great fish with so many variations and behaviours etc its amazing how they have evolved really.the loaches are as happy as can be always out at the front swimming with the africans it looks really great

are you seriously saying these fish are suffering in my tank mate?come have a look for yourself.and that means you would be offending every other member or person who has clowns with there africans eg your saying that ryan jury is making fish suffer which i can guarantee that is not the case as he keeps his clowns with calvus yellows etc and they look perfectly healthy and happy to me.do you know what ph clown loaches come in as?7.2-3 usally my ph is 7.8 i dont see how this is an experiment but maybe you should learn abit more before you offend people with your utter nonsense mate.the guy i got them off has had them in with his yellows dems johaniis empress sunshines etc he has been keeping loaches for 30+ years and these guys he grew up from young with the cichlids and my biggest is around 1/2 years old and is about 15cm can you tell me these fish are suffering no you cant a .6 ph differnce from when they come in is nothing major also the guy kept them at 7.8 also so have been used to it there whole lives

also i never said that adapt any better than cichlids mate.but they are known for adapting to their environments if any 1 would like to tell me my loaches arent happy come see for yourself.have been feeding them sinking spirulina and they love it but wanted to vary it some more thanks to those who helped not judged

yes although the africans are much easier to adapt to ph levels so are the loaches if they have been kept in a higher ph to begin with when imported as was the ones i bought were heres a link from a cichlid site http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/clown_loach.php

the clown loaches adapt very easily to the diffent phs etc and actually do really well together

cool thanks mate will give most a go had no idea about strawberry

i just got 7 loaches and there in with my africans so i have to get something the africans dont like and the loaches like.ryan i saw you keep clowns with your calvus what do you ffed them

as above

can anyone tell me the difference i picked up a trio the male has a huge red spot on his head and is also really broad so are the females and there total lenght would be no more than 10cm i will try my best to get pics but its very hard.the females are especially broad and look full of eggs

yea i think ill upgrade to that soon have been having some problems with vista

haha i just realised i dont have an email client damn vista again

when i click on your email button nothing happens it wont let me acces it zev

i have vista and i go edit and i can crop it but it doesnt resize it

i have tried but it says file is too big i dont know how to shrink it or anything anyhelp would be great thanks

i reckon ply tank.3000x1200x1000 lenght width height.if your going for an aro comm youd need 1 m high

cheers for that joe although that is awesome i dont keep mbunas so wouldnt work for me.but will definetly try out the anubias and java fern.im not good with plants so hope there hardy

i wouldnt even try it unless youve kept fish for awhile and understand it all

yea i agree with sphinx looks like red empress to me

maybe upgrade to a canister if you are using three filters.how old is the ammonia reader as they do tend to fade out fast

ok some go with java fern and anubia cheers joe

any ideas on what can go with them?

ok just wondering.how long have you been keeping fish for?you seem to know an awful lot