lduncan

Sorry if I offended you. Your monitor MUST be screwed.

Never heard of dosing pumps? Cheaper than a calcium reactor too.

Maybe your monitor's screwed, or you've got those rose tinted glasses on again. ;-) That's some real photoshop butchery there Layton

I'm not losing anything, but i am gaining convienience.

Sohal's are great tangs. Here's some pics of mine: They are agressive (but no more so really than powder blues in my experience) And they are bulletproof. One of the easiest fish to keep. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being easy 10 being hard, the sohal would be a 1, the powder blue would be around 7. Layton

I refuse to use a reactor, no matter how big of a tank I move to

I'm sorry, I couldn't help but notice the photos! What a crime against photoshop!

Completely unrelated, but if you want to hear funny, this is classic:

It's hard to find stuff if you don't look ;-) (3rd hit on google with "coral ph calcification 25%" ) Just keep in mind, that's it's one abstract, of one study. Some parts of the abstract are a little ambiguous. Although at face value it makes sense. Less protons to pump in calcification when the pH is higher I guess? I have another independent paper (full text, not just abstract) which shows a linear relationship between bicarbonate additions and calcification rates, which also shows the same relationship between pH and growth (25% for an increase for each 0.1pH unit increase)

Not really. More a case of can't proof read. Lucky I got that edit function reinstated

Whose bitter and twisted? All i've said, is what it does. Even a casual look around zeovit.com will show this, read the latest iteration of the zeoguide and you'll see it, look at KZ's tanks and you'll see it. Why is that so offensive to some people? I think zeovit is only part of the problem here (a contributing factor like i said to start with). Bleaching has little relation to coral colours too. When people hear bleached they think white, but bleached corals can, and often are intially brightly coloured... they just have low densities of zooxanthellae.

Maybe you could put your mind reading tricks to the test ;-)

It's not an assumption at all. Look at the zeoguide, look at KZ tanks, look at all the evidence on zeovit.com. All point to the same thing. Adding something which causes bleaching, then trying to control the extent of the bleaching, so that it doesn't kill the corals. And you've pin pointed you're problem right there. You think you know what i'm thinking. Maybe if you read and take in what I actually write, rather than making up what you think i'm thinking, then some of the threads on here might not be so rediculous. Layton

Why? Because it's blatantly obvious that's how zeovit does it's thing? Did zeovit kit the corals? Maybe not, but it looks to be a significant contributing factor.

Maybe because you're adding a zooxanthellae fertiliser.

Nothing to do with food in the water. It doesn't trigger bleaching. Why is that strange? I don't get it. What's the whole mystery? First you irritate the corals with zeovit and it's effects. Then you stress them furthur with a increase in light. Looks like a recepie for bleaching to me. (Your 2 cent idea may not be too far off either)

... and whose to say that isn't the case here? You add more light, and you're going to get a change in zooxanthellae levels. Bleaching isn't a descrete thing, it's a continuum.

:lol: you too? My crosshatch trigger has demolished some smaller fish too. Ate the chromis about 30 seconds after adding him to the tank! I guess when they're hungry, they need to be fed

Looks like a combination of factors to me. First some of the corals were in a bleached state after zeovit. Then the carbon absorbing yellowing compounds allowing more light penetration. Which just further exacerbated the bleaching.

Yeah, that's more or less along the lines of what I was thinking.

I bet you don't

call it a contributing factor.

...well you know how zeovit works... how hard it is to control...

:-? Just putting it in perspective. No major.