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Good to see that post was edited. It's one of the reasons I'm loathed to post here now. Layton

It's the iron . (That was the reason for my zeovit suggestions near the start of this thread, for which I got abused) The thing with iron is that it has varying effects of different type of corals. It's effects can dependent on previous exposure, so it's difficult to pin down a "critical" level. Plus you end up with bacteria causing more trouble. The less of them the better. The progression chimera describes is fairly typical of iron exposure. (Search for my previous posts on iron, Saharan dust, Caribbean reefs, IronEx etc if you want more info) I'm not sure about this discussion on adding iron. In my opinion, as aquarists we're in no position to be able to manipulate iron levels like we do other parameters (Alk, Mag, Calcium etc) I think of iron like P (only you need a LOT less of it than even P). Organisms go to extreme lengths to sequester it from a number of sources (just like P), it is VERY tightly cycled in the system (just like P), and it tends to accumulate (just like P). Iron in pumps is the worst possible place for it to be. I'd say that the eddy currents created in the iron with the strong roatating magnetic fields within the pump, would cause a electrochemical reaction which would literally spew iron ions into the water. Which I guess would be why these pump parts, with the small amount of iron, (relative to say dumping a pile of rust in the form or rowaphos or other phosphate absorber) can cause much larger problems (larger release over shorter period of time). Layton

One would think there had been no discussions on iron in this forum before ;-)

I'm done with your ridiculous accusations. adeus

If that's REALLY the case you should have no issue with saying who you were quoting, and were the quote was from. Layton

We'll it's been removed now. But that's what wasp said. He said he knew that that wasn't the intended meaning, yet still persisted in posting it, even AFTER I gave him the benefit of the doubt, and clarified things. That's not in the spirit of sensible discussion. Layton

I don't mind it when there are genuine discussions going on. But in this case from the outset wasp was intent on causing an argument. He admitted that he intentionally posted something in a way which was misleading, and admitted he knew that he wasn't portraying the true meaning of it. Even after I clarified it in this very thread, he still persisted in arguing it. It's just rediculous. That's not in the spirit of these discussion forums. Then he went running to a mod when I called his bluff. :-? I would suggest wasp take a hard look at himself and his behaviour here. I still haven't got an explanation for why he did this yet. Layton

I don't know why there was mass deletion of posts of this thread. The offending parts of posts (if any) could have been removed. Layton

Well, who were you quoting? Where was it from? I'm sure you wouldn't mind posting that info here. Layton

No, this is what i'm doing: That's all. I don't expect any response from you. Wasn't trying to start an argument. Just setting things straight, with the REAL information. Your post is just an example of how you take a content driven argument and try and twist in into a personal attack, then claim to be a poor innocent victim. I have a list of references to your personal attacks, which for the most part I ignore. I've never complained about them to a moderator. I only get involved in these long winded discussion when you misquote and misrepresent the information I provide on here. The only reason they turn out this long is because you divert attention away from the content of the discussion to your personal issues and agendas. I'm sick of it. Layton

I like the sig better Ira :lol:

I have now. I'm just defending myself against the ridiculous and deliberate misrepresentations which happen in this thread. Layton

From memory wasp quoted something from somewhere from someone, in between that. Which has since been removed from this thread (I don't no why) I'm assuming he was referring to my posts on this topic in this forum. So to clear up any confusion wasps misquotes and misinterpretations have caused, here are the actual quotes: From high nitrates and from High nitrate levels Which was substantially misrepresented by him in this thread. Layton

Who made the statement?

Where was that statement made? Layton

:lol: expensive is an understatement. I've been looking at various carriers for 3 day service from the States in the last few weeks. $150/kg for a 1kg parcel dropping to $50/kg for parcels around 10kg seems the norm!

I notice with my royal dottybacks that the males and female have a very distinct difference in the vibrance of their colour. Both females are noticeably duller, and the male is significantly more vibrant. I've read that this is a common differentiator of sexes in a lot of fish. Have you noticed anything like that in the wrasses?

Probably because they come from American waters ;-) The freight cost to get a single yellow tang to New Zealand is more than that.

The only limit to how much you can feed is how well you can get the excess food and waste out before it rots and causes problems. I got new nitrate and phosphate test kits today (i don't test for them a lot), both undetectable (My tank is far from clean though). I feed a heap, skim a lot, and siphon even more, all to keep up with this fish in particular. It'd be nice to have a setup which would take care of it with pumps and skimmer, rather than me having to siphon so often to keep on top of things.

Some do, but to be honest, pH is one of the least important tests to do. If you have reasonable alkalinity, and good aeration, then you generally won't have an issue with pH. Layton

Maybe I should drop the crosshatch around. I'm sure he'd easily catch all 9 ;-)

I'd be looking at at least $1,000 Just thinking of selling because it takes a lot of maintenance to support a fish like this. Eats a LOT of food, and makes a lot of mess = a lot of time spent cleaning up after it. If I had a tank setup the way i'd like, it wouldn't be so much of an issue. But at the moment it's just a pain. Other than that, they are cool fish to keep. Layton

Funny, I've been considering selling my crosshatch recently.

When you say blue chromis, are you talking about the atlantic blue chromis: or the common old green chromis: The atlantic blues are REALLY nice fish. Layton

:lol: I prefer the look of odd numbers 5 or 7 maybe?