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I used ammolock to try to counteract the ammonia. THe high readings were before using it. I normally don't use chemicals unless there is a problem. To keep good water quality I have found that the best thing to do is water changes. I normally just use ammolock when shipping fish, nut this time was different. It's hard to fix bad water when the water you have is worse.

I got a report from the council a year ago, and looking at it, the water is a mix of lake and artision (under ground bores) that we get here

Just in case there is anything else in the water, we are only drinking boiled or bottled water here. Until now I have regarded tap water as safe, but not anymore. I know a lot of people use filters to remove chemical's from there drinking water, but I heard that these can remove some good things from the water as well. I still haven 't heard back from the council, so I will be ringing them again tomorrow to find out what went wrong.

Its not them adding it, its them not removing it from excessive runoff that could be the problem. I tested my tests by testing water in other tanks, and got good results. I tested the water comming from the tap hourly after ringing the council, and after 6 hours it is back to normal. I also checked for clorine which was 0, and after using ammo lock and stress coat than ammonia level was again at 0, so I believe the tests to be correct.

I thought the council would have warned us to, but no warning was given, that is why I started this thread, just to warn everyone that there water might not be as good as they think, and if they, can test it before water changes just to be on the safe side.

Yes we are on town supply, and have a normal PH of 7.4. After reading about s3xtcy PH problem, I will now be doing daily PH checks as well, before doing water changes

Wow, that is a big difference in PH. It makes it hard when you try to do the right thing and end up with dead fish. The count is now at 48, with 7 more just hanging in.

I use a holding tank that is left to sit for 24hrs to get rid of clorine, then use it for water changes. Today I did a water change on some of my Discus fry, I did one of my fry tanks first, then went and did some other things. 1/2 later I notice all the fry at the top gasping. PINIC Mode. I immediatle did a water test, and came up with 2.0ppm Ammonia, Confused by this I tested my Water holding tank, again high ammonia, so I tested water coming out of the tap that fills my hilding tank. Shock horror - positive test to ammonia. I contacted our local council and was told they would investigate and get back to me. After a panic treatment with Ammo lock and stress coat to get the levels back to 0, and contacting our LFS to find out what products they had for ammonia, I was told that after the recent bad weather the council may have flushed the water lines. The cost of this so far is 44 6 week old discus fry. I will no longer presume that the water coming into the house is good quality.

Sorry about getting off the threed a little, but if you are interested in discus genetics this link can give you a bit of info http://www.discusnews.com/article/cat-0 ... cs-1.shtml

No, they could produce a % of cobolts and the rest Turks. Some of our pairs produce 50/50 turks and snakes, even though none of the parents are snakes. After doing alot of research, we found out abit about recessive genes, and the some of the babies taking on the characteristics that can go back to their grand parents.

No there are a lot of solid colour discus that don't show any bars

This might stir things up a bit, but they could be turqs. The parents are definatly cobolt, but the babies are showing stress bars, which the cobolts dont have. It is quite common for ressive genes for the parents to come through in the babies. The babies are to young to show much colour yet so it will be hard to tell if they will have a thick or thin pattern when they get older, but by showing stress bars means that they wont be cobolts.

Is your auto feeder able to feed Decap Brine shrimp, if so that would be better than pallets.

If you dont want to hatch the brind shrimp, then use decapsulated brine shrimp. When you see them leaving the parent side to try to eat some of their food, then start feeding them. As for separating them, you can seperate them earlier, but as long as the parents arnt getting stressed out by them, then leave them will the parents. Be warry of using pallets to soon with them, as the pallets can swell up a bit, which can cause problems with their small stomachs.

I think they are just having troubles with an upgrade, today was the first time in a week that I have been able to view it.

Or you can get large plastic bins at the warehouse for cheap, and put them in those while you move the tank. They also make a great emergancy tank.

Thanks supasi, thats a great help

You can also add PRO GROWTH BY ANDREW SOH which is available from Vincent Discus, its not cheap, but a little goes a long way.

Pm snookie, he lives not far from you. He may be able to help you out in some way.

I got mine on trademe. Another place to try is your local glass place as they often have offcuts from other jobs, and can even cut it to size for you.

If you add food to as many parts of the tank then that can help with the feeding problems. If the females are laying but chassing the males away then they are just laying, but havent paired up, so the eggs are likely to be infertile.

you can try using one of these http://www.forum.simplydiscus.com/showt ... 324&page=2 a an over flow and use a water drum with a pump on a timer to put water in.

Another site that has great info on discus is http://www.simplydiscus.com/library/index.shtml This is the North American Discus Assoc site

If you try to move them then they are likely to see this as a threat and eat the eggs.Your best option is to leave this batch and then set mum and dad up in there own breeding tank.

It is hard to give a definate answer due to the colour of the lighting, which you can see reflected of the bottom of the tank. The lighting will distort the true colours of the fish, so they could be a few different types.