Oh well part of the risk factor in this hobby :roll: Just keep trying at it I guess, reminds me - my mum bought my 1st tank when I was 11-12 and was only around 20-30L, of course I got immediately interested :roll: and bought lots of fish for my small tank, I have calculated I lost about 40 fish in that little tank (neons, angels, krib, etc and gourami's-not much luck with them) steep and expensive learning curve, but now from all my experience (5 years ) I barely ever lose a fish and my knowledge base is a lot wider - part of the reason why I was pretty disappointed at losing the del - could always get another one :roll: - only $87