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Hi. I'm after a photo of a Big spot or Para pleco (Peckoltia (Hemiancistrus) sabaji, L075, L124, L301, LDA02) for an aquarium world article I'm writing. If anyone can help that would be great.
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very nice plecos. thanks for sharing. I agree the cactus plecos (Pseudas) do look great.
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nice footage. Always wondered just how they did it.
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I agree that it would have been munched after it died.
The fact that the gold nugget initially spent its time at the back of the tank with the others then in the last day was at the front of the cave in a more visible/less desirable place suggests it was hassled. If it was in a stressed state before you got it (as wild caught fish can be) then bullying/chasing, restricted access to food, and the resulting higher stress levels could easily kill it. Plecos are generally hardy but so are Africans and I've seen perfectly healthy Africans die in a very short period of time after being severely hassled by dominant male Melanochromis auratus. Regardless of how it died its still a very sad loss.
For those that haven't seen it. This Planet Catfish article about gold nuggets is well worth a read. http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesworl ... cle_id=382
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The fish room sounds like a great plan. As for caves and general cover, based on my experiences with Panaques - admittedly totally different plecos and less aggressive, you can never have to much cover. You need a number of areas where the less dominant fish can hide when theres a problem. Good luck.
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Sorry to hear about your loss. They are a great fancy pleco and its always hard when you lose one. I agree with it probably being killed by one or both of the others. The offender(s) has then had a good munch on the belly. How bigs your tank? Although slow growing 'medium spot' (L018/L085) gold nuggets can grow to over 30 cm long so you will eventually need a large tank for the two of them.
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they are one of the very few cories not on the approved list anymore. So keep breeding them.
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Sorry to hear about your loss. It was a great looking fish.
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they are but they are also unfortunately somewhat addictive. I only started out with one pleco some time ago and now I have to resist the temptation to get more. I'm sure there are a number of fish keepers on the forum that have similar problems with other types of fish (discus, Africans, Orandas, etc ....).
There is also every chance that the leopard frogs may not come into the country many more times and I'm sure babies would be in demand.
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Well if they came into the country as Leopard frog plecos and look like leopard frog plecos, then theres a pretty good chance they are. There's a number of similar looking species but that seems like a pretty good bet.
Shes certainly a great looking pleco. You'll have to post pics when shes full grown. You're not tempted to get another one or two to see if you can get a pair. By all accounts Peckoltias are quite breedable.
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the Planet catfish pics certainly look like your one. The patterning of my Panaques changed as they grew. Flash plecos are stunning when small with wide white bands. As adults the bands are much narrower and quite yellow and they are darker overall. I'd say a leopard frog plecos a pretty good bet.
everything looks exactly the same!so it must be a leopard frog plec? L134?
but on the main fish ID site, the L134 looks different =(
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=8165
that fish is listed as a L134 - but looks more like a butterfly plec - which ive also got. so now im even more confused.
the species gets darker with age apparently. perhaps this is the case?
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Yeah I agree it looks different to a clown and the patterns do look sharp. Many Peckoltias, Panaques, and even some species of Hypancistrus do look remarkably similar. It may well be a Peckoltia. Check the teeth and you should get what genus it is. From there good luck. It may be worth posting images on Planet catfish and one of the pleco gods may be able to give you an id.
Anyway its a great looking pleco whatever it is.
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Great looking fish but you may be struggling to put it to a species (or L-number).
Apparently Peckoltia vittata is often confused with the clown pleco, Panaque maccus. You should be able to determine wether its a Peckoltia or a Panaque by looking at the teeth.
Peckoltias have roughly the same number of teeth on the upper and lower jaws. They are brush-shaped and roughly the same size.
Panaques have a small number of spoon-shaped teeth (ie. noticably wider at the end than the base) arranged in a V.
Look on the internet for pictures of the mouth as it should be relatively easy to tell.
Hope this helps.
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congratulations. Looks like they are coming along very nicely. :bounce:
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Yeah i agree they are hardy. Hopefully It'll recover. It's also likely going to lose its two mouth barbels as they have turned white. I guess when hes been gouged with teeth used to rasp wood theres going to be a bit of damage. Hopefully that rush of testostorone might get the male flash breeding. He's got two girls waiting by the cave at the moment.
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This is probably worth posting as I wasn't aware that small largely vegetarian plecos could do so much damage to each other.
In my 6 foot tank, my dominant male flash pleco has been showing signs of breeding for a while now but with no result. Sometime friday night he decided that his bamboo cave was not as desirable as one of the other caves held by my male mustard spot pleco and got a little bit nasty on the other male. The beaten male has exposed flesh on each side of the head at the base of where his interopercular odontodes (the facial whiskers at each side of the head) should be.
He's now in another tank and will hopefully recover but he's taken one heck of a beating. I suspect that the male was trapped in the bamboo cave for some time.
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personally I would leave it until the tank has cycled. Its done well up until now but I wouldn't push it.
You might be best to cycle the tropical tank at a temperature closer to your coldwater tank then once cycled introduce your bristlensoe and slowly increase the temperature over a few days to tropical temperatures.
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Animates had a huge amount of them down here earlier this year and they were selling at $13!
Yeah without knowing the L-number there are a number of similar looking plecs. The chocolate albino pleco is Pterygoplichthys scrophus and it does look like this fish. However other websites say there is a chocolate coloured form of the "common pleco" (probably Pterygoplichthys pardalis). Not to suprising that the commercial breeders have come up with a different colour form as they are bred in large numbers in outdoor ponds overseas. Might explain the good price.
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Nice fish. After a quick search on the net it looks like the first is probably a Chocolate pleco (Pterygoplichthys scrophus), also known as an Alligator Pleco or Rhino pleco. It comes from Peru and grows to about a foot long.
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It will be quite clearly stated that this is not in fact a gold nugget, but rather it will serve to highlight the problem with common names, particularly those that are generated on the spot. A similar problem is with the bluefin Panaque which is a species of Ancistrini (L239).
Thats why I like the L-numbers because a lot of people dont like scientific names even when they are described species, and at least the L-numbers are often accurate.
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awesome. great photos of very nice fish. thanks guys. I have now have all the pleco photos I need at the moment. :lol:
Nice to have a "flathead gold nugget" in the article as well, even if they are not a real gold nugget. Still a great looking fish anyway. Would be nice if the importers used L-numbers and accepted common names off say Planet Catfish, or just L-numbers if they dont have a common name. No wonder people get confused. At least the L-numbers are often but not always reliable when they provide them. Thanks goodness for the big catfish websites.
Apparently theres a major project underway to describe all the worlds catfish in the next few years, so hopefully most of the L-numbers will have a species name within the next five years. Theres several pleco species that have been scientifically described recently.
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Could well be Pseudancistrus sp. L067. Apparently flathead "gold nuggets" are usually Hopliancistrus sp. L017. Both species have yellow on their tails, but only L067 has yellow on the dorsal fin.
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what was it sold as: a small spot gold nugget or a flathead gold nugget?
yellow band all the way on the tail fin and dorsal fin.not sure what type of goldnugget it is though. :lol:
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Thanks mate. Great photo and a very nice fish. Has it got a yellow band all the way along the dorsal (top) fin or just on the tip.
Big spot pleco (Peckoltia sabaji) photo wanted
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thanks Phoenix44. they were imported at least once so they must be out there somewhere. Wonderworld used to have a couple.