smidey

te best NEW value for money has to be the sunsun units. tank & stand for around $400 & after that all you need is a heater & IMO they are better quality than aquaone units.

just had a look at the flow rate of a 405 & they are 900lph? with two thats 1800lph for a 450L tank so a ratio of 4 times per hour. I aim for a ratio of 10 so personally i think it is under-filtrated. flow is important, if there is no flow waste will fall to the bottom & not be sucked up but saying that you can have too much flow so its a game of trial & error. with a ratio like you have i would keep stocking smaller, say 30 fish or something like that. I have 30 fish in my 200L with a filtration ratio of 10.5 .

i have my outlets about 2 inches below the surface which i don't know if it makes any difference how far down it is. I aim the water flow toward the surface to create agitation for airation so i don't need to have an air stone. How often do you clean it? Maybe something is clogged stopping it work as well as it was.

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After a number of attacks on hikers and campers in Alaska, the Department of Fish & Game released the following advisory: We advise that outdoorsmen wear noisy little bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears. We also advise utdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between Black Bear and Grizzly Bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.

i have two filters running on one tank, i have an outlet at either end & the water returns in the centre at the back of the tank. it works well & sucks up virtually all waste. my substarte is crushed white marble so it shows any left overs. to reduce current, if you need to, aim the spraybar or what ever it has toward the back of the tank.

a wise & experience fulled statement

This happens many times in there lives for drenching, tagging, sorting being sold etc so unless they have been to the works before they won't know where they are going. To say "They probably know where they are going" is an emotional & unreasonable statement to make. Even if this process does take that long it is much faster than being attacked by a predator, there are specialist tools used to do the job not just sharp claws & teeth & pressure. i don't take it personally as the posts need to be kept to facts rather than emotion All i have tried to point out is the differences between a wild attack & process killing. Do you think it would be ok for the lion man to put live horses into the lion enclosures for the lions to catch their own food? I think that would be cruel which is why they kill them in their paddock & then take them to the lions.

if you do a small one you could still use glass

that is very cool

it certainly would be great to watch the fish travelling through it.

no the cow does not have a chance but it is also produced for that & is killed very quickly & humanely. If you think that the instant killing a cow at the works is the same as throwing an animal into a bath with another species to watch it kill it naturally is the same then this thread will never end. killing a cow at the works is instant, bang & its dead & this is why it is contained to make it fast. natural capture & kill is not, it could take several minutes from the first attack until death. to me there is a big difference between the two. If a lion was chasing you in the bush you would have a chance of surviving but if you were in a small pen there is no chance. im not sure how the cat has killed the catfish in this instance but it definately would not have died the moment the cat sank its claws into it, it could have taken quite a long time to die attempting to get away but can't as it's in a bath. I have slaughtered a few pigs & sheep in the past & will do more in the future, i currently have 5 "mutton roasts" in a paddock now that will become just that toward the end of the year. It is not an enjoyable thing doing it but that's how it is & that's what they are for but i certainly wouldn't send a ferrall dog to kill them for me as that would be cruel to the sheep. My point is that i personally would not put two animals in that situation myself, to me its like organised dog fighting.

thats impressive

all that has been said was I couldn't do that as to me it is cruel. As a farmer i know exactely how cattle is dealt with, one instant bang & its all over.They aren't put in a small pen for a lion to jump in & kill it.

the best place to find out who to contact may be your LFS, if they don't know start ringing glasiers.

may not be but it's not impossible I kinda think that it may not increase productivety but the workers may be happier there, i know i would be

this is what this forum is for, discussing what we think about things if i had fish that required feeder fish i would feed them but certainly wouldn't enjoy it.

if they were pics or a video from the wild i would enjoy learning about the cat because that is a very impressive feline.

what doesn't kill you will make you stronger :lol:

all i have done is said what i think about it & that i couldn't do it as to me it seems cruel. Ryan, in future don't give me any advice as i simply don't want it from you.

that looks like a really nice piece of furniture.

the one thing that upsets me about that is that the cat is in a bath with nowhere to go. In the wild they have a fighting chance to escape. I could not be there to watch that as to me it appears cruel, i couldn't do that.

i expect that the catfish is now deceased but what sort of person watches that, taking photos of a catfish being wasted when it has nowhere to go. I don't agree with that at all, the probably have a dog fighting ring in their back yard.

so what's the outcome? Did the cat actually kill this shark?

i wonder how much time is wasted by the emploees watching the fish or does have the tanks there increase productivety.