Pies

The way the Korralin is designed, if the power goes off, any Co2 hits the reactor chamber, then goes through the effluant pipe and bleeds into the air, co2 into the waterstream is minimal. I've been using mine without solinoid or PH controller for 2 years now without issue, my PH is rock solid as is my CA/MG/KH. Pies

You won't get a frag of an open brain, not really a fraggable coral. Pie

Layton - Any idea who they are, so I can give them a call? Nanochloropsis, Isochrysis or Tetraselmis are the 'good algae' for my purposes as far as I can find out. Not about N. Salina if you can get me some, I'll ask on RC if its a suitable strain. cheers

I was talking to Mark today (7000 litre) who is on UR, a fourm I spend most of my forum time on. NickS from this fourm has met Mark and been to his house (last year). Great guy, impressive tank from what I have seen. POMEREEF - Yeah TMC are big in the UK, and STM are another biggie. The problem however remains the same. Once I have a culture, I am confident I can keep it up and running. If I can then 'spread it around' so several of us have cultures of rotifers and greenwater running, then if we have a crash, someone else can re-seed. They all sound very easy to keep running. The problem is simply one of sourcing the cultures to start it all off. Also in the UK, you can buy from compnaies like STM a 'plankton' subscription. Cost about 15quid a month, and every 2 weeks the mailorder you a gallon bottole of phyto/zoo plankton, which you can slowly feed to your tank. No worries about contaminating it, you just wait for the next one to arrive. Great idea, esp to get phyto/zoo (or zoo fed phyto) into the tank. We could do the same here, if only we could get started! Pie

Aye if you don't have sense of humour then the Internet is not the right place for you (unless your a porn surfing cop, in which case it the perfect place, but thats a whole different fourm) Pie

That twas me. I think, the issue is one of sustainability. In that the rotifer method can get 98% success rates. There is also a dried cyclops/spirlina recepe that works, but at about 1-2% survival rate. The seawater method I read about was 'said to work' but I didn't see any stats on it. The issue with the baby clowns is a. involking a feeding response b. feeding enough of the right stuff that they actually can grow. These are key. The real problem is that the wrong algae (greenwater) will just kill (starve) the clowns. I don't know, but I guess trial and error will soon show me. Its getting close, perhaps as soon as next month I will try. All my eggs are gone now, so the clowns will lay in the next 3 days, I will watch this more closely, and try on the batch after that if time permits. Pie

IRA - Its so crazy it may just work. Seriously though, its so crazy, it may just work! I think I am likley to try something like this first. I have seen on TV the silk is actually very fine (used overseas by poor people to sieve micro-bad-asses out of their drinking water). So maybee silk or something similar? POMEREEF - About $35.00us for the rotifers (dried, just like brineshrimp egg) and about $10 for the algae culture. I suspect the rotifers would get through as are dry and argueably inert, the algae however is in a jelly so may be more obvious. If I knew someone in the states, I would get them to send direct to me in a model airplane kit ot similar. Bound to get in? Thing is this stuff is already here (everywhere), however I suspect MAF wouldn't take my work for it and kick my ass insted? Pie

Alan - Thanks, yes have looked at it. Did you see the price of their nets? OUCH no thanks! Interesting, this is one of the companies listed in the TFH 'clowfish' book, as an easy supply of rotifers and greenwater. I am tempted to place and order, take my luck with customs, and see how it goes. Or maybee find someone friendly in the USA to place an order, then split it and send it to me 5 times, playing the average game to get it accross the boarder. If I was going to be in the USA anytime soon I would just bring em back in my suitcase. Pie

So we cool? The plan is to: a. find rotifers and suitable green water in NZ or b. find a way to get rotifers or greenwater from the USA/Eurpoe into NZ or c. find an alternitive food source to rotifers (almost certainly live plankton, which I suspect I could collect with a fine enough net with a loooong handle?) or perhapps some storebrought remedy like the liquid fry stuff you get for freshwater. However EVERYTHING i've read so far points me towards rotifers, with sucess rates in raring clowns at 98%, which is pretty good odds. Pie

What does the 4 rolling eyes mean? Pieman

The babelfish has your translation. Pies

I was't so much correcting your english as I was using it as a way to refine my own question. Making it clear that its not advice I need as much as a source of food (in NZ). As for patronising you, take it any way you like, but given your response above, and in my own humble opnion I really do suggest you chill out. Pie

POMEREEF - Chill out brother. Let me be more clear, because you mised it. I don't need any help with feeding, I need a source of food. No-one on reefcentral or anyone else outside of NZ is going to be able to help me bring in live animals or algal cultures. I am an avid reader of RC, and if you have a look you will see that I have already got to the bottom of 'how and what to feed', but no-one there can help be source the food, it will have to come from NZ. Make sense? Pies

Your one odd dude, is there a pill for whats wrong with you?

I don't have feeding issues, I have sourcing food issues.

I am over confused. Steve, what you think of the tank now the collar is on? *pies changes the subject*

What I do with my own tank, is at iregualr intervals I change them. No method to it, sometimes I turn them all on, sometimes some are on, some are off, I change timer intervals Stream Controller intervals, etc. Timers have random setting. I just figure this happens in the wild as rock formations move, wind and tide direction etc. So whenever I am under the tank, often I will change something or take a timer away or swap it with something else. To answer your question, I don't think it matters. Same rules as always, more flow is going to be better for reducing nuitrients and SPS, but this may negititivly effect LPS and mushrooms. Some leathers like more, some like less, but of a lottery. Hope that helps? Pie

Sailfin Tang? None of those ghey bannerfish in my tank. Piezola PS: Why did Chimera say TV? Am I retarded? WTF.

The greenwater I need, as far as I can tell, is of a special pure strain. There are 5 different strains used to feed rotifers (used to feed the clowns). So I need to re-phrase my question. Anyone got acces to rotifers and greenwater cultures suitable for the rotifers/clowns? ohh and another question. Anyone know where I can get a net fine enough to gather plankton? A purpose made plankton net is what I am looking for. These animals are small, smaller than baby brine shrimp small, so it needs to be a mofoing fine net. Thanks? Pie

What? I am confused. What Bannerfish? Whats the smiley for? What is going on?

Bannerfish? WTF?

Right, first off lets drop all this dehumidifier crap and get on with some good old tank lovin. Here is a pic of the tank is situ with the collar fitted. Jane is in the forground to provide scale. Same but this time without Jane. Things are looking good for the tank coral wise, time to sit back and watch it grow and take shape. Also had the pleasue of RnB visiting tonight, always a pleasure entertaining a JAFAs Good to see you again, hope to pop up for a visit sooner rather than later, again thanks for the loan of the book. PS: Anyone who can help me find some rotifers would be helping me out a great deal. Enjoy. Pies

I liked it. Would be happy with corals half the size and colour. Pies

Yeah I have a few plans. 1 includes removing 2 clowns from my system (I have 4), in the hope they will pair. Skimmer has been sourced, thanks Spinedoc. The Nano will be powered by a Berlin skimmer! So hopefully i've got a tank, will find out in the next day or so. Then its all GO! Woot! Rotifers & Greenwater to feed rotifers. If you can help me out, please send me a message. Free clownfish to anyone who helps out Pie

First I have ever heard of UV creating Ozone in quantities that could effect water chemistry. Not saying it not true, but have never head of this before. Also what would carbon do to remove the ozone in the water collum? after all Ozone is just air with a stability issue (o3 as opposed to o2). Pie