spent Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Ok so most people think the flowerhorns are kind of ugly. But check out the competition from Singapore... http://www.kirin.com.sg/species.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Yuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Double yuck! I don't know why the asians have to keep playing around with existing species. Some of the goldfish were bad enough. Why they stiill have these notions... Red eyes that scares away evil Bump head (like the head of Qilin) that brings prosperity Green spots that looks like jewel;symbolising wealth is beyond me. What does a lump on a fish have to do with prosperity!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 mebbe one of the Gods has a head like that, and they bring prosperity? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Well they haven't brought it to the asians as their countries are slipping further and further into debt (like the rest of us ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 I don't have anything really against hybrids if they're an improvement on the original...But I DO have a lot against making ugly ass hybrids. What the hell is the point of uglifying a fish? They don't really even have something interesting about them other than being an ugly ass hybrid. I mean...Breed a goldfish to look like Blinky(3 eyed fish on the simpsons) and that's something, even if it is ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 BLINKY!!!!!!!!! I want a Blinky!! (not the koala-type blinky either! :lol:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Caryl said... > ... beauty is in the eye of the beholder Or 'beer holder'... Anyway, so it's OK to muck about with the genetics of fish as long as it makes them 'prettier' and we get to be the ones who define 'pretty'? Sorry, doesn't work for me, I'll maintain my mission to try and only keep and breed fish that are as close to the 'wild type' *as possible*. Sadly this doesn't always work, I've got 3 species of killifish that have been 'mucked about with' (although if we had more species to work with, these'd be the first to get the boot from my fishroom) and my 'silver' angels have some dodgy genetics as I'm finding out now that I'm raising some of their fry and getting some gold ones... BTW: > I don't know why the asians have to keep playing around with > existing species. Not sure I like the implications of this. If people need to keep an eye on their language then I reckon negative racial stereotypes should be watched too... Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 What about those Red & Gold dragon fish that sell for like $2955 and $4995 at Jansen's 'cause they are supposed to bring good luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 that's a cultural thing, and if Rolf Jansen wants to provide these fish to that market then good on him. I know very few people who have that sort of money to part with for a fish. The asian view is that red brings wealth (hence why they cost more) and the dragon brings luck. Rolf has to take into account his costs and whether the market is willing to buy. If he continues to do things like that we should see a larger number of exotic fish available, and hopefully the price will be more reasonable for our pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 mm yeh. I see Jansen's Botany sold the cheapest one, and for the price it included the tank and stand and hood! too bad it was sold :evil: and I see Glenfield has just kept their's as a shop pet with a large white fish and lungfish (gee those lungfishies are so cool :lol:). Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Just last week a fellow fish keeper and I were told by a LFS owner that if we bought a certain fish we would have nothing but good luck, met a rich man, and all sorts of rubbish. I was going to look around and buy some fish however walked out quite cross. I agree with ajbroome re negative racial sterotypes and positive ones too LOL against all racial sterotypes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 mm now blinky would be cool :lol: Chris- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petworld Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 well i dont know what the comotin is a bout the prices on fancy fish Ihave seen FLOWER HORNS FOR US $16000,00 YUST GET IT RIGHT there not there or made for you, there are for the corperation and the hotels and the folks who yust have that kind of money. ok importer. the luhan fish will be the number one fish in the world by 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spent Posted September 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 When you say number one do you mean most popular, or most common? I don't see how Hua Luo Han can become common by 2004 if only large corporations and hotels can afford them. And as for popularity, the shark, or even the humble goldfish are always gonna be the most popular of fishes. Then there's the fact that most people dont have space for a 5ft tank to accomodate a foot long Luo Han. The only thing flowerhorns are going to be by 2004 is the number one overpriced and overrated pet ever engineered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Spent said... > The only thing flowerhorns are going to be by 2004 is > the number one overpriced and overrated pet ever > engineered. Oh, there's *weeks* until 2004 yet. Plenty of time for someone to come up with a new even more overpriced fad fish. It'll probably be ugly too. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 I'm still waiting for the long finned redspot cardinal guppy hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 :lol: We have been thru that here, this is a touchy topic in a lotta parts!! :evil: :lol: the thing to watch here that some people are crossing trimac's, red devil's , festaes ....& trying to flog them off as flowerhorns. I must say it has been a good marketing ploy & thousands of asians have been stripped of serious dollars, good feng shu for who???? Frenchy 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budak Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 I'm very glad to say that the flowerhorn phenomenon has largely petered out in Singapore (and it seems in Malaysia too, and hopefully Indonesia and Thailand etc... as well)...... when you have a species that breeds like rabbits but "commands" arowana/show discus prices, you are going to get a spectacular crash (dozens of wannabe LFS specialising in flowerhorns in Singapore have gone kaput, and good riddance!)..... for myself, the aesthetics and ethics aside, I had been campaigning locally (on Singapore forums, newspaper letters and intercepting public talks) on the hideous environmental impact of released flowerhorns in local waters and am only too glad to see the end of this monstrosity (the fad as well as the fish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 I saw a news report the other day about how released flowerhorns are devastating the local fish and plant populations. Being a lucky fish, when the novelty wears off people are too scared to kill them in case it attracts bad luck, so they release the fish into the local waterways. I am pleased to hear they are losing their popularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Seems like metaphorically, poetically or however you want to call it, that letting it go would be pretty bad too. Wouldn't the best choice(Also ethically and environmentally) be to give the fish to someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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