PENEJANE Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 YAY I went into the pet store today as I was wanting to get more half blacks if they had managed to get imports. To my supprise there was an albino male in there. My question is, if my albino male was to mate with a normal female what are my chances of getting more albinos? They didn't have any females to go with him but was told that my chances were high to get more albinos by just having a male. So the tank that was set up for my solid half blacks is now for the albino and I have put in 4 golden females. I shall let you know over the next few months what happens sooo excited YAY cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Would like to see a picture! If the females are virgin then you have a higher chance. Shae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENEJANE Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 ok I got a pic, blury as hell but it was taken with out a flash and its the best one I got that showed his red eyes. He is a shiney silvery colour with a hint of a yellow/green when the light reflects off him in certian ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Holy Moly! thats awsome You've stumbled onto a really good thing, i hope you have great success with him, that way you can stock the rest of us Shae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I don't think you will get any albino fry unless your females carry the albino gene. However your fry will carry the gene so if you grow them fast(the females) and breed them back to the albino male then YES you should get some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENEJANE Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Cool I am hoping (after the "NO MORE TANKS" from my husband he has now suggested getting another 3 2ft tanks!!!) that I can keep all of one sort in one tank like my solid blacks in one, snakeskins/albinos in another and the fry will be in one as well and the rest will be in one tank with the main bristlenoses. So heres hoping to get some solid breeding sorted eventually. Fish room here I come!! haha Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 yes...if you breed him to a neutral female and then back breed again back to the his daughters, im sure you sure get some albinos. best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Albino is normally a recessive gene so you should get all splits first generation with 25% if bred to each other and 50% albino and 50% splits if bred back to the albino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 If you breed 1st generation to each other you get a problem: 25% albino, 50% splits and 25% normals. Because normal is dominant the splits and normals look the same so you can't tell one from the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 You will need to use definate virgin females or you will never tell the splits from the pure golds in the first generation and it all gets pretty hit and miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENEJANE Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 at the moment he is in a tank with some light coloured females (golden). Two of them have already had babies and I know that they are more than likely pregnant by another fish in the tank. As soon as some more virgin females come up in my fry tank I will add them to the albinos tank. After christmas I am getting one of my new tanks. It will be set up for the ablino. Got a question to ask though. With the fry, can the male fry only fertalise the females if their fin is developed or can they do that before its developed? I have noticed (watching my tanks for many hrs out of the day) that my young males are not interested in the females when they don't have that developed fin. Only once its fully developed do they start displaying for the females. If this is true then I am hoping with my fry tank (soon to move to a 2ft) I can remove the males before they can fertalise any females as the males tend to get some colour before females and their fin starts to point up I can then put them into the other fry tank and leave the females in the fry tank untill I decide which tank they will go into with what males Please correct me if I am wrong or going about it wrong. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Yes you are correct pennjane, remove the male fry before there gonopodium develops, Grow the females to 3cm or 4cm long before you add a male to them. That way the first drop although small in number will be big and healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENEJANE Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hmmmmm to do that, I would have to put a divider into the 2ft thats for the fry to grow out in as the 22ltr tank that I am currently using for fry will become way to over crowded. Thanks for that caserole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 yes a devider works and it does not have to be glass either, mesh works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 You make life easier for yourself if you know what you are breeding. If you use fertilized golds the young will all look the same. Even if you have some that are splits you wont know which ones. Using virgin females you will know you have 100% splits Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Just a bump to ask how you are going. I have the reverse problem to you: Scored female Albinos today - no males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENEJANE Posted January 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 well it looks like my albino male isn't looking to good. I have read that the albino gene can make the fish more likely to catch diseases than others. I have noticed its tail has had a very small rip in it which over the last 3 days it has gotten bigger. Like more is being eaten away. I have seen my bristlenoses fan out their spiky things and have caught my guppies tails with it before but normaly they heal from it but this time this one isn't healing as well. My outlook isn't that high for my albino as I haven't had any fry from the 4 females that are with him. All he does is hang out in his corner but comes out when I am feeding them. Might shift them to a bigger tank and see how things go If you manage to get any albinos let me know how things went for you. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Will do, just trying to find a good male to outcross with and then cross back the baby boys to get Albino males. (I hope.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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