Jason1989 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hey guys what types of whiptails are there available in nz? I no there are royals twigs panda common and reds but are there anymore? Years ago I had some that I was told were blacks they looked like a royal but as the name says were black.. And from the same seller I also got some whites. These looked more like commons but once again as the name states were white. The fish were on trade me and from up north I believe. I haven't seen them again since. Anyone no who it was selling these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 They were sold by Phil Collis, not sure what the blacks were but not royals, the whites were lancelota I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1989 Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 That's who it was!! Are they still around do you no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 The seller or the fish. Phil has sold up and moved. If someone has managed to breed the lancelota then probably. I haven't heard of anyone doing so though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Three of mine (temporarily holding them in that tank), unfortunately I only have a male of the "black" (unsure of exact species, there was a thread on it on here but it turned out to be an argument and don't think it actually got answered :dunno:) so will be looking for a female. Hoping to spawn the commons over the next couple of months (which are a breeding group that I recently acquired). Also unsure of whether the red is a "hybrid" or a true. Was one of Jennifer's fry. Also currently own a couple of royals (one male, another still growing out). And a farlowella if that counts. Never seen the whites in person but the guy I got the commons & black from said he had one at one stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1989 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Beautiful fish!! I'm breeding red lizards at the mo. 2m 4f in PVC but having a huge issue with to many females trying to breed with the 1 male so eggs get eaten commons breed hard. I feed the fry that decap brine and hate huge success doing that. Would love to c some1 Breed the blacks again. I found what I believe they are when looking at some German sights in the weekend they call them rineloricaria lanceolata 'black' also have red.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 There are a couple of different colour morphs on the L010a I bred the lancelotas (real lancelota) not what phil was selling as blacks or whatever, but the fry were almost impossible to keep alive. I also had all the varieties he sold and a couple of others. The 'whites' came in from brooklands IIRC and were different to what were being sold by Phil. Have a search through my posts for pics on what were available at the time. That might help you out a bit. The lancelota is by far my favourite whiptail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I have several of Jens red whiptails - at least 1 of each sex, fully mature, in my community tank. The parents were both red whips, imported, so I am sure they are not hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1989 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Iv worked out an awesome way of keeping my whiptail fry alive. Close to a 90% grow out rate so im very happy with that. I move back to nz in sept this year so will be on the hunt for some nice whiptail when I get back oh and pleco of corse!! You guys are very lucky with some of the fish you are able to keep! And the price u pay is very good. Would love to see some more photos of every1s pleco and whiptail so feel free to pop up a photo or 2 guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I have several of Jens red whiptails - at least 1 of each sex, fully mature, in my community tank. The parents were both red whips, imported, so I am sure they are not hybrids. Good to know :thup: Unfortunately I wasn't successful on my first attempt raising the fry - still setting up my breeder tank in order to try again (know what I need to do differently this time, though still not 100% sure on what to feed as that's still a bit of an experiment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1989 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I had a lot of die offs in the start as the fish done seem to move a lot to feed. So I got a 2nd tank 2ft long by 25cmx25cm put it outside and filled it with water and wood. I changed that water once a week. After about a month I had a new bunch of eggs in a pvc pipe. At the day of hatched I took the little tank inside filled it with water from the main tank put in 2 airlines and dropped the eggs in. 100% of the fry lived. So bin doing this ever since and seems to work a treat. I now has 3 of these little tanks rotating them round to get the green stuf growing in them. Hope this can be in some way helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I had a lot of die offs in the start as the fish done seem to move a lot to feed. So I got a 2nd tank 2ft long by 25cmx25cm put it outside and filled it with water and wood. I changed that water once a week. After about a month I had a new bunch of eggs in a pvc pipe. At the day of hatched I took the little tank inside filled it with water from the main tank put in 2 airlines and dropped the eggs in. 100% of the fry lived. So bin doing this ever since and seems to work a treat. I now has 3 of these little tanks rotating them round to get the green stuf growing in them. Hope this can be in some way helpful Great tip! Thanks for sharing :gpo2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I had a lot of die offs in the start as the fish done seem to move a lot to feed. So I got a 2nd tank 2ft long by 25cmx25cm put it outside and filled it with water and wood. I changed that water once a week. After about a month I had a new bunch of eggs in a pvc pipe. At the day of hatched I took the little tank inside filled it with water from the main tank put in 2 airlines and dropped the eggs in. 100% of the fry lived. So bin doing this ever since and seems to work a treat. I now has 3 of these little tanks rotating them round to get the green stuf growing in them. Hope this can be in some way helpful So basically using infusoria? I'll definitely have to try that! Thanks for the tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1989 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Yup that way the were always sitting on food and seems to work great for me. Then when they got a little bigger I feed Spirulina flake crushed up fine. I didn't water change 4the 1st week as that seems to hit the little guys hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason1989 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 It seems like the 1st week or so they always hang on the sides or on something in the tank so don't often go to the bottom so doing this was the best way I found. What's some other ways people are growing fry? I use this 4 royals and red lizards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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