camtang Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 So now I have had to sell my Africans I need to restock my tank. It is around 2.2 long 600 wide and 700 high (rough numbers, but a close guess) and very well filtered. So these are the options I have been toying around with at this stage. Option 1: Arowana, 10 geos ( have not decided what type yet), 10 maccaws(Hypsophrys nicaraguensis), Albino Oscar, fire eel, clown knife, plecs, 15-25 clown loaches and the odd pant wedged in between rocks and on wood. Option 2: Arowana, albino Oscar 4-6, dats x 2, plecs,clown loaches, fire eel, clown knife. Option 3: Dwarf cichlids, a big school or two of bigger tetras, plecs and clown loaches, acaras/firemouth, maybe light amount of plants Option 4: discus, 10 geos (dont know what type yet), plecs and clown loaches. Option 5: discus,plecs and clown loaches I know the Aro will out grow, but I am planning a tank up grade (already starting to contact builders) and I want to get use to keeping an Aro as I plan on keeping an Asian aro once I get a biger tank. I have been wanting an Aro for some time now, so the first two options stand out the most to me. I don't know how well the plants will go with the wood munchers and other big plecs so they are still a maybe. Of the fish in all the options all I have previously/currently keep is Oscars, plecs, loaches and the odd dwarf cichlid. So most of this will be a learning curve so I would like some first hand advice if possible. Thanks in advace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 definitely go for the aro. i like davids setup with the aro, geos and plecos all fitting into the south american theme. a school of angel fish could also work on that theme, as well as firemouths. clown knife, fire eel, both great fish to have with aros as also growing into monsters... what kind of aro? maybe a jardini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 orrr... get a deal on a bunch of small silver aros and grow them out as a group..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 definitely go for the aro. i like davids setup with the aro, geos and plecos all fitting into the south american theme. a school of angel fish could also work on that theme, as well as firemouths. clown knife, fire eel, both great fish to have with aros as also growing into monsters... what kind of aro? maybe a jardini? Yeh so do I, but I don't want to be as strict on fish options and be more worried about compatibilty and having the fish I have wanted for some time now. I will be looking for a silver because they are easy to find. I don't like angels so they will NOT be going in the tank. Thanks for your input bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Forget the plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Forget the plants. Aye aye captain! I guess that also rules out option 3 with the tetras and dwarf cichlids as well. orrr... get a deal on a bunch of small silver aros and grow them out as a group..... I do like that idea, but I doubt the tank I build will be big enough to house that many aros long term. But three small ones growing out together would be cool, especially if I already plan on parting with them in the long run. Or maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculator Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I would do option 1. Personally though I wouldn't do an oscar though, I would be to afraid that it would pick fights with the Geos, and harm them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Something I have been thinking as well, I have just missed my albino from the day I got rid of it. I would also hope with a tank big enough, and only one it may not make to much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Oscars have great personality but chew on everything including the silicone holding the glass. :nfs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I never knew they would have a go on the silicon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixClowns Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Oscars and Geos go okay together. Have kept Oscars, Clowns and Geos in the same tank (as long as they are the bigger Geos ie Surinamensis etc and decently big clowns, although our fully grown Oscar never bothered any of our smaller fish). Just as a side thought, wouldn't recommend putting Clowns with Discus. As they are quite boisterous and like to swim fast up and down the tank (at least ours do). Would recommend using a big school of dither fish (ie some sort of tetra, have seen tanks with Blue Turks, neons and planted look quite nice). PS. We had an Albino Pigeon Blood Oscar and he was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 How long did you keep your oscar and geos together for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I kept 6 discus in with 6 clowns and there was never an issue in a 450 litre tank. I will probably do the same again in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I have also heard they are fine together from a couple of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I had 17 in with my discus and they were fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yes, clowns are lively but they don't share the same tank space as discus, the only time they really get together can be at mealtimes but both are gross feeders so feed a decent amount and have good, but not overly strong filtration running or something like cory to clean up the leftovers My clowns tended to get together as a gang in the evenings and play - the discus were up the top half of the tank quietly doing their own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The only concern I would have putting clowns with discus is the worry of whitespot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thanks for the info ladies and gentleman, but I think I may sway away from the discus in this tank as I going to be having them in the planted tank which is in the lounge as well so I would like to look at differnt things all the time. So I guess that puts it at option 1 and option 2 left. It is reasuring that someone has had both geos and oscars together without issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The only concern I would have putting clowns with discus is the worry of whitespot. From clown to discus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixClowns Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I guess all fish are different, in regards to the clowns/discus. Our clowns are very lively all day and thought that would probably upset the discus. Our Surinamensis and Oscar lived together for about 11 years until the Geo died of old age. Did have other Geo's in with the Oscar after that ie a 6cm Balzanii Cichlid (Gymnogeophagus Balzanii) and never had any problems but just keep an eye them cause you know what Oscars are capable of lol. Love most of the fish you want in option 1 and 2 (either have had them or want them, especially the Asian Arowana you spoke of). PS the whitespot comment: Clown Loaches are susceptible to it as they have no scales and it can spread quickly and fatally. Once saw a tank of about 50 A grade Clowns get wiped out by whitespot in a day and that was with treating them with heavy duty medicine. Plus the higher temps discus like will likely aggravate the Clowns. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Clowns actually prefer the warmer temps that discus are kept at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixClowns Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Have clown loaches in our tank, two of which are 9years+, have never kept them in water over 27c and clown loaches can go as low as 22c, which makes them eat less, grow bigger and live longer. Ours are kept at 25c and have never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I was under the impression that clowns needed to be above 27 or around 27 and more food = bigger fish ( in the long run) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I have 6 wild discus, 5 clown loach, 3 striata loach, 1 flying fox, about 19 different bristlenose and 4 harlequin all living and growing happily in a 245 ltrs tank. They are all decent size fish too. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I kept mine mostly around the 30 degrees, in the summer the tank could go over 32 - never a problem. Also at the high temperature of a discus tank white spot is not an issue. The tank is too hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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