Zuri_08 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Hello I have a black lined flying-fox who loves to swim, circle and jump. The problem is he has a small tank (28L). When he was smaller he loved to do back-flips out of the water, now he still jumps but hits the aquarium lid, and then smashes into the gravel. He has been doing this for about a week (the hitting the top and bottom of the tank, otherwise he is just an energetic fish). Question: I am wondering if he is going to be stressed in the small sized tank and if he would prefer being in a bigger tank, I'm kinda guessing that is the reason, but just thought I would ask some knowledgeable fishy people... and I'd love to get a bigger tank but there is no room for one... and I am quite proud of this fish... so would have to sell him if his odd behaviour is due to a cramped environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 From what I can tell, most flying fox fish sold here are actually Siamese algae eaters - which I'm afraid should probably have 100+ litres because they get so big. Not sure if he's a real flying fox fish otherwise, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuri08 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Fully agree here should be housed in at the least a 3 foot tank get quite large need there space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuri_08 Posted July 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah, thats what I was thinking... I'll find him a new home... Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 as far as i have seen all the importers label what they import as Crossocheilus siamensis "Blackline flying fox, or just flying fox. dunno why though as they would probably sell more if they called them Siamese algae eaters. I would say a minimum tank size would be 200-300L once they are fully grown (15cm of fast swimming bullet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 as far as i have seen all the importers label what they import as Crossocheilus siamensis "Blackline flying fox, or just flying fox. dunno why though as they would probably sell more if they called them Siamese algae eaters. I would say a minimum tank size would be 200-300L once they are fully grown (15cm of fast swimming bullet) And be careful with tank mates :roll: Dad's one is a huge bully, we can't have bottom dwellers any more because of him. Little **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuri_08 Posted July 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 I quite enjoy watching this energetic fish - but now I really do feel he needs a bigger home quickly! Are there people that would buy large fish? I hope so... and yep, he was a little aggressive towards the platties but seems ok with other fish. I wonder if this is a socialisation issue, I mean, if they are not introduced to various fish species when they are young, are these fish more likely to be aggressive to different fish species when older?. I say this because he doesn't bother the neons at all, and to begin with it was just him and neons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 I quite enjoy watching this energetic fish - but now I really do feel he needs a bigger home quickly! Are there people that would buy large fish? I hope so... and yep, he was a little aggressive towards the platties but seems ok with other fish. I wonder if this is a socialisation issue, I mean, if they are not introduced to various fish species when they are young, are these fish more likely to be aggressive to different fish species when older?. I say this because he doesn't bother the neons at all, and to begin with it was just him and neons. I'd say they're just semi-aggressive fish. Ours was bought in a group of 5, then survived a massive temperature drop (the lone survivor) - but during that was with some BNs, tetras, discus (who didn't survive either :tears:) etc so was socialized. I think they're just grumpy with bottom dwellers, territorial things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFishing Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 (15cm of fast swimming bullet) You can say that again. I'm convinced mine is teleporting to get from one end of the tank to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Black Lined flying fox = Siamese Algae Eater = Crossocheilus siamensis Flying Fox = Epalzeorhynchos kalopterus Both have been the country and are easily confused. The Black Lined Flying Fox - the real algae eater has a black line that extends the length of the body and through the tail. This is a member of the shark family and therefore is semi aggressive, fast and likes lots of space. It should not be kept in a tank with a red tailed shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boban_nz Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Crossocheilus siamensis - I have never seen the fish so far. Black lined flying fox = Crossocheilus langei + Crossocheilus atrilimes + Crossocheilus oblongus ??? + Crossocheilus sp. + Garra cambodgiensis + ??? Silver fox = Garra sp. Flying fox = Epalzeorhynchos kalopterus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomsam1001 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Black Lined flying fox = Siamese Algae Eater = Crossocheilus siamensis Flying Fox = Epalzeorhynchos kalopterus Both have been the country and are easily confused. The Black Lined Flying Fox - the real algae eater has a black line that extends the length of the body and through the tail. This is a member of the shark family and therefore is semi aggressive, fast and likes lots of space. It should not be kept in a tank with a red tailed shark. My Uncle used to keep one with a red tailed shark and discus, with no problems :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amtiskaw Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I had a red tailed shark that was ok in a smaller tank. Moved him and the rest of the community to a 450 l tank, and he went psycho. Had to euthanize him in the end :tears: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Crossocheilus siamensis are the "Black line flying fox's" that are currently being imported by at least two of the companies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amtiskaw Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 SAEs are much more placid, although they do better in schools of >3 My 4 are fine in my community tank. They are a little aggro at feeding time - no nipping or anything, they just swoop in at great speed and don't show any fear. They still graze algae most of the day, even after a feed of flakes or bloodworms. If the OPs fish is a genuine SAE I'll take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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