Godly3vil Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hey people I am wondering if anyone on this forum has experience running a pump inline on the output side of a canister filter to give it more flow, I have a spare eheim 2213 lying around that has a broken impeller and I really don't want to replace it but was thinking of running an inline pump instead, something like an eheim 1060. I would fill the canister with just bio balls so I don't risk the filter material clogging up and restricting flow to the pump. There is too much conflicting information on the net (surprising I know!!!) but I cant see why I can't? Any feedback would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Never had to do this myself but I don't see why you couldn't. Same idea, just the motor is in a different location. I'd run it so it sucks water through the filter rather than push it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Just so I have this right - you mean having a pump connected to the output so the water is pulled through. All I could imagine happening is the canister running dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 If the canister is sealed it can't run dry, can it? I'd just replace the impeller myself :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 sorry Sam, I changed my post. Yes I would just change the impellor as well. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yes, I would have it pulling water through rather than pushing it. I don't really want to replace the impeller as last time I had to buy one it cost over $50 and also the pumps on the 2213's are really crappy. If I put a more powerful pump on after the filter I could then run either my co2 reactor or inline diffuser, with the normal 2213 pump I think it would struggle to put out enough flow for this. I was just going to run a loop system just like a canister using the pump but thought why not use the spare 2213 as well for extra biological filtration. The only thing I could see going wrong is the seals on the 2213 not having enough pressure to be able to cope with the extra power of the eheim 1060 pump but I think it would be fine as long as the pump was connected after the canister. Just to clarify I do not need the extra filtration provided from the eheim 2213 but it won't harm my setup either by adding more biological filtration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Also helps that I can get some brand new 1060's for a small price from an old saltwater keeper I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have a 2500? l/h pump pushing water into my cf1200 and works just fine. one advantage on having it on the inlet side is it never needs priming as the pump in in the tank and under water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I used to run an aquis 2400 with a pool pump paper filter inline before the canister filter. To boost flow I used a 1300lph pond pump in the tank it worked well . I had both the pump and filter pump going at the same time. I would recommend running the pump before the filter as I think it would work better also take into account many pumps run hotter and way noisier when not submersed while an ehiem would be fine it tends to shorten the lifespan of cheap pumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Wouldn't running the pump after the canister be safer as this way it's not forcing water into the canister which could risk blowing the seals if say it got blocked or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 shouldn't be a problem the o rings will handle more than any common aquarium pump can throw at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I agree with spoon. Either way will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superico Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 i am considering doing a similar thing and i was told it would not be a good idea because its forcing the filter pump to good faster than it is meant to (my pump still works i just want more flow). he said than the filter pump would not last this way. can anyone confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 i am considering doing a similar thing and i was told it would not be a good idea because its forcing the filter pump to good faster than it is meant to (my pump still works i just want more flow). he said than the filter pump would not last this way. can anyone confirm this? I don't think it would matter. If you are worried then take out the impeller from the canaster filter and just run the pump/powerhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I wouldn't be running the built in pump in the canister superico, the impellers broken anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 mine ran for about 18 months in this manner the filter is still going about 4 years later as my mate still uses it to my knowledge its only be opened and cleaned 5 times also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 i am considering doing a similar thing and i was told it would not be a good idea because its forcing the filter pump to good faster than it is meant to (my pump still works i just want more flow). he said than the filter pump would not last this way. can anyone confirm this? Like the others said, the canister won't be pumping. But, I think there is something to that. I have tried having a 404 pumping through another 404, thought that way I might be able to just have one intake and one spray bar. It started an odd rhythmic surging cycling about every second or so. Even if it wasn't causing any excess wear or damage it was definitely annoying. No idea what the exact cause was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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