henward Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 want to know the parents. there are heaps of articles online how to breed them, it is a matter of actually doing it, and knowing parents will indicate, is this a real red texas? as far as i know red texas is a festae and texas cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 it's a bit dodgy that the guy himself won't tell us what the parents are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee2 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 it is bull :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 +1 because it looks to me like a flower horn.. here is one of his previous auctions - parent? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =505267617 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 and what we have in nz sold as texas are not true texas they are Herichthys carpintis o0r pearl scale/lowland cichlid - a completely different species. i've never seen a true texas here. have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 never really knew there was another texas. i guess i am not up with the cichlid gig:D but cool, thanks for letting me know! my next tank is gonna be a predator tank, may have a few cichlids. i always loved electric blue dempseys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes H. cyanoguttatus is the "true" texas cichlid (haven't seen one here), but carpintis is fairly similar and I'm guessing would probably have been one of the main components in making a red texas as they are far more common than cyanoguttatus in the hobby. The colour of the fish on trademe sort-of resembles an unfaded midas/devil, I'd put my money on the parents being either midas/devil X flowerhorn or midas/devil X texas (H. carpintis). And if thats the case the chances of getting anything close to a "super red texas" out of the fry would be slim at best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes H. cyanoguttatus is the "true" texas cichlid (haven't seen one here), but carpintis is fairly similar and I'm guessing would probably have been one of the main components in making a red texas as they are far more common than cyanoguttatus in the hobby. The colour of the fish on trademe sort-of resembles an unfaded midas/devil, I'd put my money on the parents being either midas/devil X flowerhorn or midas/devil X texas (H. carpintis). And if thats the case the chances of getting anything close to a "super red texas" out of the fry would be slim at best... first gen i suppose would be not so red, but if this person keeps it, grows it out and re crosses it for more red, maybe ? interesting to see the temprament and colour i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxnz Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I like this topic :bounce: Last time me n Duncan were Trying to get some infos off him, and i also try to invite him into this forum for a further discussion regards to his red Texas.. To be honest it's his right not to give u guy the identification of the offspring parents..it's meant to be a secret of the trade :slfg: From what I believe is that he only success in crossing his Texas with another red fish! Could be a midas/rd or Bp, I doubt that he would have a female festae in hand.. The only people I know who got female festae at current is me and GAO.. That our secret weapon for now :slfg: :slfg: Anyway for a true super red Texas from what I have read from forums, you would have to dedicate at least couple of generation inbreeding to get the colour right.. From what I also seen when crossing Texas with eg. Bp, the grown up offspring is looking so retard with still carring the deep green blue of a Texas.. But only a small percentage say 10 out 100 will have a fade tone mixed colour..and that do make sense if you know how to work out the your punet square. Just ask yourself a simple question: if red Texas are easy to be breed, then why is it hard to get hold of one? Most flowerhorn fan love super red Texas, they do pay some big $$ to get a nice looking one.. Conclusion: the guy on trademe do have a head start of making red Texas but its just a F1 fader Texas, He do not have red Texas parents at all in hand, so there for that fish on trade me is just a fader and its not a true red Texas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Interesting write up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... -red-texas the mother must have been that red devil (midas) that he sold in august Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?132336-What-to-breed-with-texas-cichlid-to-make-a-red-texas the mother must have been that red devil (midas) that he sold in august It may of not been the mother, they may of had more than one making the one they sold redundent.this is just a dig at the aqusation type remark :smot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 i don't know what aqusation is, but my male carpintis is a horny bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 the mother must have been that red devil (midas) that he sold in august Quite likely I'd say. As Jack said these fry would probably be a good start for a SRT breeding program, but if you think you're buying this fish then you'll be sadly disappointed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yeah, I took one look at those fish and decided the $250 price tag was over by about $245. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Yeah, I took one look at those fish and decided the $250 price tag was over by about $245. haha yeah, i saw it and i thought.. mmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter_crazy Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I thought I read in the Q&A that he didn't actually know the parents? Sad looking wee fish for such a huge price tag - even the re-listed price is very deep for a first time cross. I just picked up a Green Texas (or wannabe green texas as the case may be) today from Wonderworld in Rotorua and am pretty impressed with the colour/pattern considering its only 4cm odd :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 yeah, if that is the case and he doesnt nkow, claimign its a red texas is a bit far fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I thought I read in the Q&A that he didn't actually know the parents? Sad looking wee fish for such a huge price tag - even the re-listed price is very deep for a first time cross. I just picked up a Green Texas (or wannabe green texas as the case may be) today from Wonderworld in Rotorua and am pretty impressed with the colour/pattern considering its only 4cm odd :thup: pics??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 never really knew there was another texas. i guess i am not up with the cichlid gig:D but cool, thanks for letting me know! my next tank is gonna be a predator tank, may have a few cichlids. i always loved electric blue dempseys predator tank? sounds awesome.. what else besides some cichlids are you thinking of? sorry :smot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 predator tank? sounds awesome.. what else besides some cichlids are you thinking of? sorry :smot: don't forget to vote for the pike cichlid and fahaka puffer in the upcoming import vote. i think the fahaka puffer is the biggest meanest predatory freshwater fish that we can get in nz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsta1 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 red texas f1. first generation. texas x blood parrot. they are really popular in asian countries and america. but u can make a red texas with midas or red devils aswell. but parrots give more red.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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