camtang Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 My neighbour has just come over and said he is interested in evoloving from fish, frogs and birds to fish, frogs, birds and lizards. He is looking for something relativly easy care and hardy as it is his first one but one that is also nice. He is planing on build the enclosure after he has decided on the animal so he can make it an approprite size for an adult creature Any thoughts ideas advice I can pass onto him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 congratulate him in evolving from all of those to a mammal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 wow, once again some usless help from you :slfg: I am actualy after some info with some substance but thanks for your very valuable input on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 I would give you useful help if you wrote stuff without errors in english translation that was sooooooo easy to poke fun at. Beardies do ok outside and im sure they would do well in the nelson climate. if he wants t go inside recomend LEopard geckos, as they are (supposedly as I have never had the pleasure) easy care reptiles as long as you have a good supply of live food. also a good option would be Axo's or Turtles (they have sooo much personality, PM DonnaM for heaps of help) I personally would steer clear of bluetongues, they are great reptiles but if he is not 100% keen they can be a bit boring even though they are rather tame, they just don't move too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 I would give you useful help if you wrote stuff without errors in english translation that was sooooooo easy to poke fun at. I am sorry that my english and grammer is average, have you considered that maybe its my second languge and i am trying very hard to master it? i bet you didnt. And its not so bad that you can't tell what I am trying to say or ask, because you clearly can. Hes not keen on turtles or axo's. he got the turtle buzz out of the way with my old ones and doesnt like axo's at all :thup: thank you for your help I will pass it on to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 I know its your second language, thats what makes it so much fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 It doesnt make it funny for me ! its horrible, and how do you know its my second language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 oh, seriously sorry if i've annoyed or offended you in any way, im a bit of a sarcastic person and poke fun at anything that moves. im not trying to be mean or anything, just making jokes in poor taste. I won't promise that I won't do it again, but know that it is not out of malicious intent. I do the same to anthonylaw and his english is worse than yours even though its his first language. damn there I go again I know because you said so last time I gave you a ribbing. its just the Kiwi thing to do, at least your not an aussie, they don't know how to take a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 funnily enough you dont know why I would say that last time as English is my first and only language. :smln: Now that was very much some good fun :sml1: :sml1: :sml1: did you like what I did there? because I did ! :digH: ohhh and we are well and truely :smot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 hrmmmmm.... now who was I giving crap to that didn't deserve it the other day??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 I have beardies and leopard geckos. Leps would be easier to keep inside as they require less space and don't need UV lights. Both require live food so before even building an enclosure I would suggest you get very deep pockets or get very good at breeding your own live food. Start with mealworms then graduate to locusts and crickets so you can give them a mixed diet of suitable live food. There is plenty of good advice on the internet for looking after both and a few people on here with knowledge of keeping both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 thank you, he has a heap of frogs so does his on food breeding from memory already so that should help him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACEAnthrax Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I would also recommend leopard geckos. A LOT easier and cheaper to care for than bearded dragons/water dragons etc. Leopards don't need UV, don't need a very large enclosure, are easy to feed and clean. Can be kept on a diet of mainly mealworms (which are the cheapest live food available) but I would definitely recommend using other live food as well for variety. My lot all eat lots of locusts, mealworms, wax worms etc Only down side is they're nocturnal so you don't see much of them during the light hours. Although they do often get up in the late afternoon. You need pretty deep pockets as alan said if you get a dragon, they eat a lot; and live food gets REALLY expensive if you're not breeding yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaky2 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 waterdragons good for fish,turtles,birds n lizards but need a very large OUTSIDE ENCLOSURE. :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 at least your not an aussie, they don't know how to take a joke. *you're Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 waterdragons good for fish,turtles,birds n lizards but need a very large OUTSIDE ENCLOSURE. :thup: Are you talking about all in one enclousre like some kinda of massive awesome multi animal complex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonz1833 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 yes he will be great enclosures that way heaps to look at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 hmmm very interesting, I will propose the idea to him and see what he thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 How much do water dragons go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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