opticalblue Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hi All I was wondering what would a good fertilizer to make these plants below grow faster. I currently use jbl fert balls, flourish excel, and co2. Sagitaria java fern, Baby tears, twisted Val, H.Polysperma Any suggestions as to what I am missing or could add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Tried Flourish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opticalblue Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Isn't hat pretty much as the same as flourish excel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Flourish is a plant fertiliser, Flourish Excel is a CO2 supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Flourish comprehensive or one of the other flourish products might help. Flourish excel in too large a doses will eventually wipe out twisted val - it does not like it at all. What sort of speed of growth are you wanting and what are you getting at the moment. Its not just fertilisers that help the plants grow, lighting also plays a big part in it. You have a mix of root feeders and plants that feed through the water column in your list and also they do not all like the same sort of lighting conditions. Plants like the 'twisted' val could be one of two types, one easy to grow, one not so easy. Tank temp also plays a part and I find that even though my plants are in a heated tank in the winter growth is generally slow. You may have already looked at the link below but if not it might assist you http://www.fnzas.org.nz/?page_id=25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 all of those are considered easy to grow, the sag prefers higher lighting though which may make your poly grow a bit stringy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 all of those are considered easy to grow, the sag prefers higher lighting though which may make your poly grow a bit stringy have you got any suggestions that might help optical blue. I can grow all the listed plants except java fern in my tank. It either dies off or becomes totally covered in bba. I put it down to the fact that my tank has very high lighting which suits the other plants and also the temp I run the tank is just over the max of the preferred range for it. I think its a lot easier to have plants in the tank which prefer the same sort of conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I would arrange the layout so the twisted val eventually reached the surface and kinda draped over creating a shadier are for the java fern and poly to grow, with a nice carpeting effect with the dwarf sag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opticalblue Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Thanks for all your comments. I have Arcadia freshwater lamp fluro tubes x2 and aqua one tropical reddish tube fitted into my ar980 tank which is on for 8 hr a day. So I think lighting is pretty good. Just seems wired because when I had a smaller tank ar850, I was trimming the plants nearly every 2 weeks. Without fert balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dachende Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I was pruning weekly up until winter hit, and I haven't had to prune since. Maybe it's the temp that is slowing the growth of your plants ? I'd definitely look into flourish, I use it and have found it's really good for promoting growth if you keep a constant routine. Also, you can look at pruning certain parts of each plant to promote new growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Twisted Val will not react kindly to flourish excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 check your iron levels as well, tried everything in my tank until i tested iron and found it to be 0 used flourish iron and suddenly everything is going crazy, the signs of iron defficiency is yellowing and stem plants growing short stems between nodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Try adding Magnesium, Epsom salts at a dose of about 1/2 tsp per 100L. It is one of most common deficiencies that can significantly affect growth rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opticalblue Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Thanks for all you advice guys. How often would you add the Epsom salt Jenifer? I've now got some flourish and seems to be doing better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 How often would you add the Epsom salt Jenifer?About once a week is fine. :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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