I feed my fish nls and i feed twice daily with the odd day of no food. I think i may not be feeding enough as the y look a little thin between the pelvic and anal thin if that makes sense. There is an inward arc between the pelvic and anal fins and i noticed one of my haps had some white poo today which i've never seen. I thought white poo was a sign of bloat and i don't think i am over feeding

There are 23 fish in the tank 15 juvie mbuna and 3 5cm haps. The other haps/peacock are around 10cm and 3 of these i think are lookin a little thin. I feed approx 3/4 teaspoon per feed, which in hindsight is prob not enough. Can i up the amount straight away or should i adjust it slowly? how much should i be feeding per feed?

It sounds like you may have an internal parasite.

if so whats the best treatment? could that explain the sunken stomach?

That would explain the sunken in stomach and white poo.

Try buying some internal parasite medication, otherwise soak food in garlic juice. Garlic is a known natural cure for this.

any advice on meds i could use

Treat with Metronidazole 400mg to 40Ltrs of water.

Will need to get this from a Vet

damn everthings shut tomo

Will need to make an app with the Vet, as Metro is abit of a pain to get to be honest, give the Vet a big speel about whats up with your fish and what you need to treat this internal parasite, most of the time people like you and me know more about fish keeping and meds than they do.

How many litres is your tank??

340l

Hmmm, so your going to need about 8.5 400mg tablets for one treatment :roll:

Metro is ineffective after 8-12 hours so need to treat twice a day, with a near 80% water change in between each dose, need to complete 6 doses.

Was going to offer to send you some, but with the amount you are going to need, will be better for you to get them from the Vet.

Far easier to treat in a 40 Ltr tank, hence the 400mg per 40ltrs.

I have read it is usually a 10 day coure, is that 8.5 tablets each day?

Will be 8.5 Tablets per treatment, which should be twice a day, as Metro is only effective for 8-12 hours.

I'm going by what Discusguru advised me to do when I had problems with the Discus I got from him.

I put the tablets into a snaplock bag, roll a glass over them to crush them into a fine powder then mix with a small amount of water untill its a smooth paste, then add more water, then add to the tank.

I would probably start with something a bit milder and easier to get and cheaper like levamisole.. If your fish are eating then it isn't urgent yet, if you chuck some levamisole in they should start improving with a few days so that will give you something easy to start with.

is levamisole a fish shop treatment?

Some good reading on here:

http://www.loaches.com/Members/shari2/levamisole-hydrochloride-1

is levamisole a fish shop treatment?

It is avaliable over the counter from vets/pet stores for worming birds.. I think you can even order it online if u google it.. If u can get it I can probably send u enough to do your tank 1ml does 115l so u would need like 6mls for the 2 dosages needed hardly worth u buying a 50ml bottle...

Wow, is that all you need to use, might be worth while keeping some of this on hand :thup:

Wow, is that all you need to use, might be worth while keeping some of this on hand :thup:

Totally vets in Fielding used to be where I got it from when I was down those ways..

Levin and Horowhenua Vets will have it, they have everything, I'm a regular visitor there with my Animal Tribe :thup:

cheers guys i know a vet so will see what i can get. Mbuna look fine its only a couple of haps and a peacock, they might be gettin outgunned at feeding time by the mbuna. Will try changin a few things at feeding time and see if things improve over easter and that will give me a chance to suss the levamisole just in case. The hap with the white poo has normal poo now so, but will keep an eye on them.

i have a couple of spare tanks and bubble filters if you need them

cheers smidey might take you up on that

Best way to do it is to treat the whole tank.. Just drop water level as much as you can, odds are if one fish is affected then the rest will be.

It may just be the slower fish not getting enough food though.

It is avaliable over the counter from vets/pet stores for worming birds.. I think you can even order it online if u google it.. If u can get it I can probably send u enough to do your tank 1ml does 115l so u would need like 6mls for the 2 dosages needed hardly worth u buying a 50ml bottle...

I have a very persistent bout of white spot. No deaths and when I think it's all gone it appears on a clown loach or 2. Have been treating initially with salt and temp and now wunder tonic. Not full doses as aware that loaches are sensitive to treatments.

Would this levamisole help?

I have a very persistent bout of white spot. No deaths and when I think it's all gone it appears on a clown loach or 2. Have been treating initially with salt and temp and now wunder tonic. Not full doses as aware that loaches are sensitive to treatments.

Would this levamisole help?

Levamisole won't help it is for internal parasites although some things I have read suggest that it boosts the fishes immune system..

Best thing for white spot is blue circle white spot cure.. But salt and temp should deal with it how much salt are you using.. The blue circle looks like this http://www.google.co.nz/search?tbm=isch&source=mog&hl=en&gl=nz&client=safari&tab=wi&q=blue%20circle%20white%20spot%20cure&sa=N&biw=320&bih=393#i=0