mcrudd Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I have only now got my tank too look super great. Got all my real plants and my lovely school of Harlequins BUT I started reading Stella's book and now I have fallen in love with the idea of getting some Redfin Bullies, they sound so cute and I would love some. The more I read Stella's book the more I want a native tank. I live in a small house so space is an obvious problem, Lots of ideas are running through my mind to try and make this work. I read in the native forums about ponds, so that is an option I might consider, though I would love them in a tank so I can observe them. Oooooh I am in a pickle :nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 At the risk of sounding like a sports wear ad....... Just do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativelover Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 im sure you could find space :slfg: ALWAYS room for new ish and redfins are really cool the males have the most amazing colors :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 being native you can fine a cool place in the graden close to the house with lots of shade and run a tank out side cool ......................... :nfs: go for it :digH: :digH: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 shall I be the sensible one and say 'what does your husband say to this idea'?? :sml2: cause you know we don't need persuading, probably it's just him you need to work on :sml2: maybe he can make you a stand that will fit one tank above the other so you can save space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Don't let Stella here you say that you are reading her book, we'll never hear the end of it It is a good read :cofn: All I can say is either ditch the tropicals or get another ~120 - 200 l tank for the natives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 shall I be the sensible one reaily.. ive just fell off my chair in tears of :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrudd Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 LOL everyone, you guys are no help :slfg: Hubby was looking through the book, due to my careful placement of it :sml1: He actually loves the idea as well, said the whole family can get involved with spotlighting and so on, only problem is he said that my main tank must stay as it is, he has spent way too much on it allready, hence the reason for a pickle. I was thinking the pond, but am unsure about how the summer will warm it up. Perhaps a home made one that is quite big and deep aaaaaaahhhh I want natives LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativelover Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 a pond would be cool but you wouldnt really get to see them :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrudd Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Wonderful news :thup: Hubby said I could go the pond way, I will make it work to be able to see them. Anyways he is very excited to build one himself with pondliner, and then we can make it nice and big so that it does not warm up to quick, he even suggested a spot for it allready. Only thing is he said next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I still think it would be hard to see them in a pond, remember it's going to get algae quickly due to sun exposure, so maybe buy I think it is barley straw? And if it's deep to prevent over heating, the fish are going to hideout down low. And they're not bright orange like goldfish so are going to blend into the substrate colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 pond with viewing window? surrrrrrely there must be room SOMEWHERE for another tank. Even I fitted 2 in my miniscule lounge... Anthony, I am so deeply sensible :smln: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 :smot: Anthony, I am so deeply sensible :smln:That is why she was made a mod, cant have been for her knowledge :digH: :digH: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 hmmm looks like I'm gonna have to knit you up a can of whoopass :smot: :smot: So Mcrudd... please continue, we are all ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddle69 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 pond would be cool just go spotlight it at night :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 well thats only acoulpe weeks away...better get planing :digH: cool,, going to do a built treaded.. :spop: :spop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 :smot: :smot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 To solve your problem of not seeing them much - why not have an outdoor aquarium instead of a pond? They have a lovely outdoor tank setup for natives at Karori Wildlife Sanctuary in Wellington, which is what gave me this idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Stella's book has this effect on people... I read her book when she first released it as I was looking into natives anyway, I have done some extra research... and I am now breaking down my tropical tank and moving the remaining occupants into a 60L in my daughters room, and the big tank in the lounge will then be converted into a native tank. May I suggest you guys go spotlighting in your local streams to see what is around... once you have done this it gives you an idea of what you can easily put into a tank/pond at your place. I have been spot lighting a lot to see what is cruising around in my area http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=50515 and I have Banded Kokopu, Bullies, lots of shrimp and Koura in close vicinity... so I have planned the stocking around this. To quote a line from Stella's book: Welcome to the obsession :happy1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 :happy1: :happy2: :happy1: :happy2: :happy1: :slfg: :happy2: :happy1: :happy2: :happy1: :happy2: :happy1: *cough* Excuse me, not sure what happened there.... Do a search of the archives for Preacher's native pond, a really lovely example. There are various threads here with photos over the years. He messaged me the other evening that he was going to go spotlighting that night, I expected his usual spot in the Hutt River but he came back with a long and detailed report about the inanga and crays in his freaking BACK YARD. :sick: I haven't done a native pond myself, but due to temperature issues, make sure it is well shaded and as large and deep as possible (remember council bylaws about when a pond must be fenced). To quote a line from Stella's book: Welcome to the obsession That line had been part of the introduction for yeeears. I refused to take it out and I love how it is proving to be so accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrudd Posted December 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 LOL Stella its an obsession alright, but the good thing is, the whole family can get involved I might consider the pond idea, it would make my garden beautiful as well :thup: I will look at the minimum dept without a fence and do that, hubby is real excited to make the pond himself, he is very handy. I will post pics to facebook once we start next year, but native I am deffinetly gonna do. My most favourite part in your book so far is the picture of all the eggs with the little eyes in them, that is just toooo cute :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 My most favourite part in your book so far is the picture of all the eggs with the little eyes in them, that is just toooo cute :love:Like these Cran's bullies? From Post http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=55357&p=604627#p604627 in this thread http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=55357 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 eeeeeeeeeeee! :love: little googly eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrudd Posted December 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Aww blueether, exactly like that, Stella's pic just had more little eyes, but its addorable, I just love it :love: Stella I checked the regulations and 400mm deep is the maximum before a fence must be put around, do you think that would be deep enough. I have the perfect shaded area, Hubby said he would put a glass panell on one side of the pond (told you he was handy) so we can see them through there unless we all go spotlighting LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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