chris b Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I have been to my local pet shop and they have a display tank with very sick looking clown loaches (1 about 15cm maybe 4 10cm) I have tried and tried to tell the owner they are sick but he tells me that's just how they are,i have 25 very healthy clowns and that's defiantly not how they are!! The biggest sits in the corner facing up into the filter current all day and is very skinny (i told him it needs to be wormed and he laugh at me). There is 1 other floating around the top, on its side at times with a white lump on its eye and barbals i have asked him to sell them to me and ill treat them but no success what can i do without getting the shop in trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 nothing, take a video and post on here, and tell us who it is with the permission of the mods... this is to keep these guys honest i must admit, i have seen some pretty irresponsible shops out there... not many but some. PM me who it is maybe? curious lol but yeah, just boycott that shop. video for proof, mods permission and we can all boycott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 We do not name and shame here. Contact your local SPCA. I would also write a letter to the editor of your local paper (again, not naming the shop) voicing concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted October 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Im not going to name them. If anyone sees' this from timaru they will no what pet shop it is we only have one (should be none) im not going to go to the paper because they will know its me straight away as im always telling them how it is all i can do is not go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmillanm Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 That's sad (and arrogant) that they won't accept any advice to help their fish. When you know how gregarious and active loaches normally are it isn't nice to see them suffering:( I saw a lone kubotai loach looking really withdrawn and nowhere to hide or play with in a pet shop near me & I just had to leave the store. GL with helping them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumbeginner32 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Why wouldn't they sell them to you? Just to be spiteful? Get someone else to go in there for you and buy them all?? Some people just won't listen/don't want to know. It's like when I told my daughters kindy that their fish tank was too small for the 5 fantail goldfish they had in it. Last time I went there there was only one as the rest had died. I told them that you need at least 60 litres for one fantail and they said that they were told it was fine (by one Animates store) and they said they'd had them for ages..... still.... they just had no room to swim around. The tank is only about 50L at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 because there in a desplay tank and not for sale i will give it another go this weekend.last time i tried he was humming and harring so if i flick some coin in his face he might snap at it hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumbeginner32 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 That's silly... he could sell them to you and just put new ones into the display tank :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 That's silly... he could sell them to you and just put new ones into the display tank :facepalm: yea that wat i think but realy he shouldnt have any clowns in there at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumbeginner32 Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well if it's a display tank then he can put anything suitable that he wants in there... like guppies for example :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well if it's a display tank then he can put anything suitable that he wants in there... like guppies for example :thup: he has angels, discus, flying fox, clowns, gormez and tanks about a 200L. Guppies might be food but im sure he would be one to try :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 went to the shop today 1 clown down 3 looking ok 1 still skinny. He has treated the tank with an antibiotic as one of the discus got an injury (at lest he is looking after them). there tank had a nitrate spike after treating so he is doing lots of water changes witch is good for the clowns still no sale tho. I said to him "you knows were i work when you wants to sell them" and said i paid $75 for some recently hope that works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nitrate is not a problem. If you got the clowns what would you treat them for and how would you treat them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumbeginner32 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 he has angels, discus, flying fox, clowns, gormez and tanks about a 200L. Guppies might be food but im sure he would be one to try :facepalm: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumbeginner32 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 went to the shop today 1 clown down 3 looking ok 1 still skinny. He has treated the tank with an antibiotic as one of the discus got an injury (at lest he is looking after them). there tank had a nitrate spike after treating so he is doing lots of water changes witch is good for the clowns still no sale tho. I said to him "you knows were i work when you wants to sell them" and said i paid $75 for some recently hope that works Fingers and toes crossed xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nitrate is not a problem. If you got the clowns what would you treat them for and how would you treat them? I thought nitrates was bad i dono what he said something spiked anyway nitrite or nitrate (im not an expert). I would treat them all to a wormer that is all for now as the one with the white infection around its barbals and white eye died i think he seems to have it under control for now ...till the next outbreak atlest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Ammonia=highly poisonous to humans and fish Nitrites=less poisonous than ammonia but still poisonous Nitrate=even less poisonous but still toxic in high doses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I understand that fish will tolerate high levels of nitrate.Most so called health foods like silver beet and spinach are high in nitrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Yeah something insane like 100ppm? Not to say that it should be ever this high, better to have them low then high, :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 The toxic nature of nitrate to humans is not the nitrate but the fact that enzymes and bacteria in the mouths of some people can cause the nitrate to become nitrite and this can react with the red blood cells to cause a similar problem to carbon monoxide poisoning where the blood cannot carry oxygen. But you need a whole predisposition to it. This may be a similar problem to fish but I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 All good reasons not to eat silver beet or spinach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris b Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 went to pet shop today and clowns are looking much happier and healthier skinny one has fattened up. good to see they sorted it. :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Next time you are there you should congratulate them and encourage them to keep looking after them properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 a happy ending.. cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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