Lucid Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Well, My angels have spawned a few times and after trying a few things I still don't have any fry from them. SO this time I have removed the filter cover that the eggs are on ( Yes I know caryl, you told me they wouldn't use the pot I put in for them ) and placed it into a breeding net and placed it in the path of the new filter in the tank, to provide current to hopefully stop the eggs from fungusing badly. There are no bubbles getting thru the net - is this ok? and is there anything else that I can do to get a maximum hatch from this lot of eggs. I eargely await all the expert opinions to help me out B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Ball just be thankful if you get any eggs to hatch. This will prove to you that you do have a viablepair to start with. The system you are using I assume can't have methylene blue added to keep down the fungus?? If so, add some, but not too much, just make the water go pale blue. I have just hatched out some jewel cichlids after taking them from the parents. Hundreds of them. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 awesome, congrats alan would it hurt to add some meth blue to the tank, seen as the eggs are in a breeding net. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 The trouble with "tank dosing" is that it will wipe the good bacteria in the filter, also, if you have carbon in the filter, it will strip the methylene blue from the tank. Your choice buddy. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi Ballastic, The best anti-fungal cure you can possibly get are the parents.. as they will do all that is needed once they get the hang of things. On top of this... you are missing the best part of the whole miracle that is there... right in your tank.. if you give the guys a chance that is Ok... we do get pairs that just won't care for the eggs or fry.. but invariably this is not the fault of the fish... but that of the owner, that has either the wrong conditions.. or is over disturbing the fish at the critical times. Give them a chance man... and dedicate the tank to them if you want the fry... it's well worth the effort I use 40mm plastic water piping propped in the corner for my pairs to spawn on, and if the need arises it can easily be removed for hatching the eggs seperately. Dosing a whole tank with Methelene Blue is a "very" last resprt, and for your present situation, a gallon jar or reasonable sized container floating in the tank will do the trick. On the odd occasions that I have had to intervene with the eggs I have used the plastic "vege" box out of the fridge he he. As someone poiinted out.. at least if you get "one" wriggler, you will know you have a pair, as often two females will go through all the motions without results. Hope it works out, Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Cool, thans for that guys, they currently have a 3ft tank dedicated to them only, it is planted but really have nochoice as I need the space for my plants I have placed them in an ice cream container, the eggs were fungusing very quickly, so I plucked them of with an eye dropper, I have about 20 wrigglers at a glance and about ten that haven't hatched or fungused yet. Have added a tiny drop of meth blue just incase the eggs decide to hatch, and will slowely filter it out with water changes. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 ok, so did a water change today and removed some of the meth blue from the ice cream container, It looks like I still have all my wrigglers and a ciouple extra from the ten or so eggs i had in there. My question is now, how long till they are free swimming generally and when if at all should I add an airstone on low flow. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billaney Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hi Bal Congrats on the wrigglers , awesome ! :lol: keep it up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Alright, so i went to check on my wrigglers after work today and they all look like little baby fish lying on thier sides, I am assuming that this is normal. Also i did a quick count and it looks like there are approximately 60 ( ) or so of them in there. So fingers crossed I have a few that will make it through, when do I need to add an air stone, how sensitive are they to change in water quality, I haven't been able to construct a divider yet, but hagve a one foot tank set up and running, it has fully cycled and is ready for fish. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Start doing water changes into your babies from the tank that they will be going into. DO IT LITTLE AND OFTEN No airstone at this stage, they'll be bounced all around the place. About four to five days as wrigglers. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Ballistic said: Alright, so i went to check on my wrigglers after work today and they all look like little baby fish lying on thier sides, I am assuming that this is normal. Yup... quite normal. They will go from that stage to taking little hops around the tank, then they will eventually become free swimming. It's important not to feed them until they have fully consumed their egg sac. My preferred first food is Newly Hatched Brine Shrimp, but they will manage on Liquifry for Egglayers. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I have been and checked on them and they are making thier short hops already, and the food I have ready is micro worms, is this to large to start with, if so i will go get some liquifry B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I usually don't feed the Micro till around a week to ten days after free swimming. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Not a stupid question at all mystic. Angel babies do not develop their distinctive shape until a bit later (about a month if I remember correctly. It is a long time since I had angel fry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hi mystic, all you can really see at the moment is eyes, tummy and spine, but boy do they wiggle, will get photo's up as soon as I can gt a decent one. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I thought it was a great question and one I wouldn't even have thought of asking. Just shows you have a questioning mind. Just as well they are egg layers - imagine giving birth to triangles :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 What would that be Jude? A trio of angles? Triplets Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 :lol: Alan I think a triangle is a triangle. Three angels would be a triangel wouldn't it. Or a trioangel - any more would be a school ......... rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 And a trio of triangles would be a trioangle or ............. oh, shaddap Jude :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Hi All, After a few requests for pics I have managed to get one, man they move quick when you try to get a pic, managed to get a couple while they were resting, and yes i know the pic is small, but in the interest of not using up or slowing down this site, the pic is a link to a bigger one which will be clearer. B hosting courtesy of http://www.imageshack.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted January 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 HI Al, Well I got home from the bbq at judes, with Caryl and Grant in tow, to show off my tanks and my angel fry were free swimming. I did a water change last night and then set them free in thier new home this morning. After a long day at work worrying that I had let them out to soon and they were not gonna survive the day, I raced home and found they had all survived the day in the new tank. I had been doing water changes with water from the tank they are now in and knew they would be ok, but it never stopped me worrying. They are free swimming and quite happy munching down on microworms, and I am one happy fishkeeper. It's awesome to watch them progress from eggs, to wrigglers and now to fry ( they are fish finally lol) and swimming round the tank. Pics will follow soon, will let them settle in fully first. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 That is so cool. You sound like the stereotypical first time daddy - even though I know you aren't ...... :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't wait to see them in the flesh (or scales) Cheers Jude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted February 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Well, heres an update on the angels. The first pic was taken by Caryl the same weekend as thw bbq at jude's which if my memory is working was Sat Jan 16th And this pic was taken today Sat 19th Feb The second pic is more for mystic, just to prove that they are trtiangle now. :lol: B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 They are looking just like baby angels Oh They are baby angels Kewl, good work. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Nice looking finnage there Ball... Good erect dorsals and good extension of the laterals. Looking sweet... Keep up with the partial water changes Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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