Fruju Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Well, they seem to be colouring up well 8) Couple of FTS Male GT, photos not doing justice, will hopefully get really orange fins. Festae Not bad i reckon, time for you to post some of yours DavidR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 oh nice! they're awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 That festae is mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Very nice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Sweet man, festae looks awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Females are supposed to be nicer, but I'm quite happy with his colour so far, probably not even mature yet 8) , gonna replace sand with a darker gravel -@ Morcs: got meself a double white t5 tube 3ft light for $100, so running that as well as a double 4ft flourescent tube light. See if plants will do well in here also, festae doesnt appear to dig in the sand, neither do the GT's. Upped the water changes also, hopefully some wicked growth now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Wont the Geo deal to the plants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Geo is ok with plants so far, had him in a planted tank before, was a sev that did the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Festae looks great!! I'd leave the lighter substrate, mine are on "brightwater" gravel and are all quite dark, that and possibly the fact that I have [most likely] seven males in the tank together. Mine are all quite shy, planning on moving them into the 5' as soon as I get the big tank running [hopefully soon!] and adding some dither fish to try to get them coming out a bit more. The one likely female I moved into the 6' with the clowns has gone from being shy to really active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Females are supposed to be nicer, but I'm quite happy with his colour so far, probably not even mature yet 8) , gonna replace sand with a darker gravel -@ Morcs: got meself a double white t5 tube 3ft light for $100, so running that as well as a double 4ft flourescent tube light. See if plants will do well in here also, festae doesnt appear to dig in the sand, neither do the GT's. Upped the water changes also, hopefully some wicked growth now Sweet. Itll be pretty spectacular if the GT and RT decide to lip lock when they are bigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Still cant get over the colour in the festae, amazing! Cant wait to get one off david! Heres my little nasty, he is the dominant GT in the tank (3m and 1f), quickly took dominance off my older male that i have had a while but he has never fed well. This guy is just a pig tho. Also threw a pic of my female salvini Excuse the ditrty glass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Nice GT bro, looks a bit more developed than my one, there is also quite a nice one in HFF roskill, but i think its sold. Whats the difference between a GT and a gold saum? no difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Nice GT bro, looks a bit more developed than my one, there is also quite a nice one in HFF roskill, but i think its sold. Whats the difference between a GT and a gold saum? no difference? Very minor differences, gold suam is what you have, also known as the false GT. true GTs are seldom seen, ever in the states. Because of that, everyone refers to false GTs just as GTs anyway, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan7 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 My big male is from the same shipment as the ones currently at hollywood, (as is my smaller male and the female) he is only about 3.5 inches long. Getting the hump already! My older one which is about the same size as the dominant guy pictured is probably a saum and looks kinda similar to yours, has more blue/green around the gills than the GT pictured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Nice GT bro, looks a bit more developed than my one, there is also quite a nice one in HFF roskill, but i think its sold. Whats the difference between a GT and a gold saum? no difference? man, don't even start on that, there's been so many round-and-round debates on MFK!!! :lol: So many varying opinions, made much worse by people trying to use the name "green terror" as though its some sort of official scientific name that only applies to one species. People seem to get all wound up about the "true green terror" when what they are really trying to say is the "true Aequidens rivulatus". The true A. rivulatus is rarely seen in the hobby, what we get is a different fish of the same Genus, as-yet undescribed AFAIK. There is also the silver saum and silber saum, which may or may not be the same thing depending on who you ask (silber is German for silver IIRC). Either way, the green terrors/gold saums that we get here are IMO the nicest looking, they are more colourful and have a bright orange seam [saum] along the dorsal fin. Im sure the ones left at HFF Albany will sell now You manage to find another female for your guy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 i have a male + female, male is a pussy, female DOMINATES him :lol: He needs to toughen up. She eats a lot of food, he is a little more reserved. He looks awesome when he flares, to be honest, I thought the festae would beat on everything, but hes quite submissive especially if you compare him to an oscar or jag cichlid. How big do you reckon the festae and male GOLD SAUM will get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 festae should get to over a foot, so at the current size its still really a juvi, which may explain the mild temper, watch out when it gets to 6-7". I've also read that they're a lot more mild when kept singally, its only when breeding they get super aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 will def look out for his agro then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 that looks like a female. apparently females have the black dorsal fin and black anal fin. thats what i read anyway. i got a small one today, lucky dip, see what happens. that isa nice festae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 less colour is male same here aswel confused. david has one that looks like that, and im sure its a fem. i want a fem! i hope mine is a fem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 but then again this one is a contradiction. both have bars and are well coloured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Mine is closer to the female in the 1st 2 vids, but closest to the male in the last - I think the spangling + green on face separates the male from female. Red is also not as intense on males- only on the fins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 yeah, looks awesome anyways! i just wish the one i got looks like that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeusterae Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Nice fish man!! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Henward, have a look at the countless festae sex threads on MFK. From what I've read the black in the dorsal is very unreliable, and the blue speckles in the dorsal/tail/anal fins are a much better indication. Because I had mine in a group I was also able to observe their behaviour and the one of mine I'm picking as a female wasn't fighting with the other 7 as much, and "she" is showing much less of the blue in her fins than the other 7, even the less dominant ones (which also have black in the dorsal fin). My money is still on male for Frasers fish, I guess only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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