phoenix44 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 yeah haha. do not interrupt. take out the male and leave her be, or she'll beat the male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ryanjury Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Wow they look like little apistos already Well done! Have you had any luck breeding them again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Have you had any luck breeding them again? Haven't tried I'll try catching the male from the 4ft and putting him in the other tank with the female. I mean she is ready to breed again he is a tricky bugger though. swims away when he sees the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I've just been watching my pair hovering up some T-bar fry I added. The live food is great for conditioning but they go ballistic at each other afterwards. The only time they have not tried to kill each other- reminds why i stopped keeping apistos. I have heart in mouth every morning before i see them both -ALIVE. I use Java moss that is grubby to feed my T bars and let them hide in so they can be big enough to eat Still can't get colouration in my male like yours though 'P' :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danval Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Growing quick P44!. What food do you feed to condition the adults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I used JBL discus food for the adults. No special attention, and the odd bit of blood worms everytime I can be bothered getting a tiny bit from the freezer for them. Seriously, they just breed. No BB tank, nothing. The tank is planted, with CO2 and the babies only ate decap brine shrimp. When they first lost their egg sac the only thing I fed them was liquifry because it was easy and readily available. No messing about either. I use a syringe to feed them and found the moss especially valuable because they would eat detritus off it and hid in it perfectly. The tank got its first water change ever when algae started kicking in. :lol: Maybe im lucky in that the males would usually dominate the female until the eggs were laid and fertilised, and then the females chased off the males. The mother of these fish was ok with the male being in the tank after the eggs were laid, but i took him out any how. The first female nearly killed the first male who used to hide vertically behind the heater / filter. PS- Pots must be the secret ingredient. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danval Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Thanks for that. I think I need a few more plants in my tank as it has minimal plants but heaps of oak leaves to hide in. Can you suggest ideal plants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 hmm.. I can recommend glosso The mother would force the babies to hide under the glosso 'canopy'. But any thing that provides cover really. Im going to try again - but this time in a tank with crypts. Remember that plants and gravel make them a pain to feed, and the excess food rots and makes algae grow. but i suffer from couldncarelessatisis :lol: so it didn't bother me. The mother did a great job taking care of the babies. she would clean them, help them get unstuck and take them to and from cover. No way I could do that. She was like a little shepherd and they were her sheep Hopefully one day, they will make good parents too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Mine haven't required pots or glosso and the male isn't aggressive at all...but the females certainly are when they spawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I counted 9 babies in total which makes sense because there were 10 with the mother, and when I removed her a week -10 days ago I lost one baby. So one short of registering the breeding but oh well. Maybe my first registration can be L46 :lol: Friend also picked up 3 baby female GBRs for me. They are uber cute and have made the babies come out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Oh awesome man. Maybe I can buy a pair from your next batch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Oh awesome man. Maybe I can buy a pair from your next batch? If there is another batch. The male is proving to be impossible to catch from the display tank, so unless I buy a male to do the deed, and then sell him I'm not sure it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I JUST counted 10! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I JUST counted 10! dspmokd;logms;fkndsajkfdsnjkganjnjkgf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Breeding project 2.0 has started as of 5 minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Breeding project 2.0 has started as of 5 minutes ago. Even better =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Male - Female - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 They are looking awesome, how are the pair going? When will you have some for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativelover Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 wow they look amazing how much are adult apistos ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Pair are fine. Separated now as they were both recovering from injuries. Need another tank to breed them again in but cant really set up another tank at the moment. Have 2 females and 8 males from this batch; so when they are bigger ill sell some males and keep the females to breed again. I want to see what the colours will be like. Adult agasazzi were like $98 for the pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativelover Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 cool are their any cheaper apistos ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Apistogramma "Steel Blue" are just as nice as agassizii, and you can buy them from $20-30 a pair. Trifasciata are nicer than steel blues, and they're about $50 a pair. Eunotus are realitavely cheap too, and they're really nice. Macmasteri aren't too expensive either, but they don't look very good. They have quite muddy colouration. Laetacara curviceps, or Dwarf Flags, are nicer looking than some Apistos, and grow to about 8cm, and you can get good-quality fish for as little as $10 a pair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativelover Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 cool thanks for the help how many pairs can be in one tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 It depends on the size of the tank, and what species you are interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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