CodKing Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Is it possible/legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 illegal. Along with practically everything else you may want to do to a trout that doesn't involve licenses and approved equipment. (We caught a 55cm while electrofishing a fortnight ago! Had to let it go ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodKing Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 And I guess the process would be drawnout and expensive? Funny, I pay $100 a year to catch and kill up to 4 a day but cant stick one in a tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 yep, yay for legal illogicalities! I have no idea if it is even possible to get a permit, I doubt it. And given the size they get (eventually) it probably wound't be granted to a private person, as opposed to a zoo etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Interesting that it is illegal to keep an introduced species yet it is legal to keep native (and even endangered) species. Economics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Really, killing of introduced species should be encouraged, maybe they should even pay you a token amount per head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Agreed. The difference between a trout and a possum? Well, we all know the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I do my share with the possums, and their fur at least makes it worth while. I would love to be able to catch more trout, but at the moment I pay for those over priced licenses and dont catch any. Been doing it for 6 years now, not one trout. I think im justified to throw out a piece of cheese lol, though I could never do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I do my share with the possums, and their fur at least makes it worth while. I would love to be able to catch more trout, but at the moment I pay for those over priced licenses and dont catch any. Been doing it for 6 years now, not one trout. I think im justified to throw out a piece of cheese lol, though I could never do it. might be better to pay for fishing lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Hahaha the fishing is fine, its my luck! I used to catch every time I went out, I think I used up all my luck as a kid. I still get plenty of snapper off the beach so its not too bad lol, though i would love some smoked rainbow trout or a nice pan fried brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 you do know how to fly fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodKing Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 I do my share with the possums, and their fur at least makes it worth while. I would love to be able to catch more trout, but at the moment I pay for those over priced licenses and dont catch any. Been doing it for 6 years now, not one trout. I think im justified to throw out a piece of cheese lol, though I could never do it. Some places you're still allowed to use a worm, if you just wanna land one that's a good option! Big fat and wriggly wins the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 you do know how to fly fish? Yup, been at it for well over 20 years now haha. Though my rod is getting a little old, it was my grandfathers when he was young. Been using it for salt water fly fishing lately, landed a nice kingi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Hahaha the fishing is fine, So you're really good at fishing, it's just the catching part you're not so good at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Trout are not easy to keep. They need clean, cold, highly oxygenated water. I kept a half dozen baby ones in a goldfish pond for 2 years and they hardly grew at all. We put a couple of dozen (rescued from a dried up water race) into an oxidation pond full of daphnia and they only lasted a couple of years as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplants Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Really, killing of introduced species should be encouraged, maybe they should even pay you a token amount per head... Does this include the fish we keep in our tanks and ponds? Before you answer 'no', have a think about the Carp in the Waikato, Gambusia in Lake Rotorua, Goldfish in the Lower Selwyn River, and the various 'aquarium' plants choking some of our waterways. I know your post was probably tongue-in-cheek, but the issues above were all caused illegally/accidentally, and 'we' (keepers of introduced organisms) are not above reproach. Trout, also, were introduced into New Zealand for someones enjoyment. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Does this include the fish we keep in our tanks and ponds? Before you answer 'no', have a think about the Carp in the Waikato, Gambusia in Lake Rotorua, Goldfish in the Lower Selwyn River, and the various 'aquarium' plants choking some of our waterways. I know your post was probably tongue-in-cheek, but the issues above were all caused illegally/accidentally, and 'we' (keepers of introduced organisms) are not above reproach. Trout, also, were introduced into New Zealand for someones enjoyment. Cheers If the fish in our tanks and ponds escape into the wild, yes, I think they should be killed. Along with dogs, cats, rats, pigs, deer, sheep, cows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Absolutely. And the people moaning about the species that we cannot get in NZ should take a close look at all these deliberate and accidental introduced pests and then start noticing all the unique species that we have that the rest of the world can't get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think the goldfish in the lower selwyn are rudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplants Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think the goldfish in the lower selwyn are rudd Hi Alan, it was some years ago I saw them (I don't fish the Selwyn much these days due to the poor water quality - more of a threat to our native fish than trout, oh, and water abstraction of course), but I seem to recall many different shapes, colours and sizes of the 'Goldfish' type fish. Maybe they were Rudd? Do they have significant colour variation? Must go and have another look once this weather clears up. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Whip Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'm stoked we have Trout and Salmon here :bounce: . They are good to eat and great to catch . Some natives may have suffered but if you can look at the big picture they are worth more to the people of NZ then a few inga and bullys. Not to say our native fish should not be protected and valued. Trout and Salmon have there place here as do Deer,Thar,Chamios and Pigs. They just need to be managed. I kept Trout with goldfish when I was a kid they grew fast and killed some of the goldfish so I took hem back to the creek and let them go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplants Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'm stoked we have Trout and Salmon here :bounce: . They are good to eat and great to catch . Some natives may have suffered but if you can look at the big picture they are worth more to the people of NZ then a few inga and bullys. Not to say our native fish should not be protected and valued. Trout and Salmon have there place here as do Deer,Thar,Chamios and Pigs. They just need to be managed. I kept Trout with goldfish when I was a kid they grew fast and killed some of the goldfish so I took hem back to the creek and let them go. Couldn't agree more! Except perhaps the bit about Trout and Salmon being worth more than 'a few inga (sp.) and bullys'. Maybe financially, but there are values other than financial ones that are as, or more, important than $ (I wish our current Government would realise that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodKing Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Wow, I started a bit of a debate here! I like trout, I don't know too much about NZ biodiversity when it comes to fish. I just know about catching and eating and we used to catch 'cock-a-billies' as kids. Just did first year Bio at UC and am starting to see how cool it all was..... and some parts still are! Now, as an intelligent species we can see how introduced species effect ecosystems, from what I understand it's really about preventing new arrivals, IDing new entrants as quickly as possible, analyse and manage likely outcomes. Well thats my input I just cracked the bottom of my main tank Fishies having quality bucket time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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