Matto Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 hi i say on the net that you can put Vallisneria in tanks with Africans and its supposed to help with breeding and thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 if your trying to entice breeding i don't think that plants will do alot to help that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 It can give them places to hide but rocks can do that too I have had limited success with plants in african tanks most of my fish eat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Apparently Val is in the same area of the lake as Electric Yellows. So yeh, may help. I used it more to break up territories & it offers somewhere for those lower down the pecking order, somewhere to hide too. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 can you get it in nz? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The straight ones (untwisted) are unwanted organisms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 so no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 you can get some of the twisted vals here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 is this the val we cant get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 You can get it relatively easily. There is the giant species that is nationally banned - that is the stuff found in the wanganui river. There is also another type that does not get quite as large, and that is sometimes seen in fish shops. I used to see a lot of it in auckland being sold as valisennaria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ymir Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Well I have Africans and I have plants and it seems to be working far so far. I have several species of plants and the only one to die so far has been the twisted val. :evil: My two Anubias species are going fine and I also have three java fern species which are very happy (normal, thin leafed and Windelov). I have one crypt species (I have know idea what it is), Bolbitis and what people tell me is Lilaeopsis brasiliensis but I believe it is Lilaeopsis mauritiana and lilaeopsis novae-zelandiae, thou I do have several Brazilian Micro Sword plants as well. Finally, Limnophila Aquatica. All these plants I have initially brought in small qualities to see if they would survive and assess African suitability. If you want plants that are at a beginner level . I would recommend the Anubias and java's ferns (the thin-leafed species is my personal favorite) . These are tough plants that can survive the pH range of Africans and they have a low light requirements. So no need for expensive lighting setup. The other aforementioned species seem to tolerate the pH and hardness levels but require stronger lighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 is this the val we cant get? Wow, that tank looks great!! ....nice fish too. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 All the straight vals are unwanted organisms. V. gigantea, amaricana and spiralis (the leaves are relatively straight but the flower stem spirals). I understand from contacts at the Regional Council that the powers that be would also like to ban the other Vals along with Sagitaria subulata. I think there is a lake up north that has been invaded by S. subulata I am not sure about all plants but understand that Java Fern requires more light in harder water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Ymir - I don't know what you use in your tank but if you have been using flourish excel that is likely to 'melt' the val. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ymir Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 ahh, then yes, the twisted got melted :-? any the excel for the carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaxim Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 :lol: nice looking tank smidey and nice dubs. What are the other Tropheus, more yellow ones? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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