Morcs Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Do you guys reckon I should get. they will be bubba size. Tank is a 4x2x2. Only bottom tank mates will be a pair of senegal bichirs, and a gold spot pleco. I have 20 put aside for myself, but wondering if its overkill and that 10 long term would be a better number? :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 they eventually get to 30cm ish but grow rather slow 10 would be better if you want ot grow them out to a good size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 naah 20 is good. 18 is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 20 + 10 is better still :lol: They'll probably take 30 years to grow to 30 cm . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 they eventually get to 30cm ish but grow rather slow 10 would be better if you want ot grow them out to a good size Takes a long long time. And if i grew them to about 12cm+, and sold half of them, its a good return... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 How big are the sens ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gill Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I bought 4 bubba CLs and only one survived. I nurtured them all ,well i thought i did.So i would go with buying a few more than you think you want just in case some don't make it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 How big are the sens ? 5''. i reckon theyd be sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 they will be sweet go for the 20 , just watch out for the clowns barbs major choking hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 no! 20 is an evil number. why not 18? or 21 instead. I am not going to get sleep knowing someone is buying 20 fish :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEE Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 hay come on morcs just sell that fancy bike of yours and buy a huge tank and the buy like 500 that solves all this. hahaha :bounce: :bounce: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 is this thread serious? if so 20 in a 4x2 with those tank mates would be a overkill... honestly i would say 6-8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 is this thread serious? if so 20 in a 4x2 with those tank mates would be a overkill... honestly i would say 6-8? are you kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 are you kidding? no? when you consider floor space available 20 would be allot... not only that is the filter up to that bioload? I would say 20 would be way to much and you would be better with a smaller amount... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Note: Clown Loach may pretend to be dead at times. Recommended temperature range: 24 - 30 C. [Display in Farenheit] Recommended pH range: 6 - 8. Recommended hardness range: 5 - 15 dH. Warning: You NEED to add more aquarium filtration capacity!!! Your aquarium filtration capacity for above selected species is 12%. [What's this?] Your tank is too small - it will require massive amount of frequent water changes per week! Your aquarium stocking level is 316%. [Generate Image] [What's this?] Your tank is seriously overstocked. Unless this setup is temporary, you should consider a larger tank. That was for 20? and just the clowns with nothing else running a fluval 404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 no? when you consider floor space available 20 would be allot... not only that is the filter up to that bioload? I would say 20 would be way to much and you would be better with a smaller amount... so a 432 L tank wouldn't grow out 20 CL very well? I personally think it would be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 depending on the filtration, I think its overstocking... Not only that it wouldnt be a big return after you add up all the expense... Tank heating, feeding, time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 so a 432 L tank wouldn't grow out 20 CL very well? I personally think it would be fine Oi! What are you doing up at this hour Charlie, in regards to the aquarium stocking calculator, it only calculates the adult size of the fish. So 20 adult CLs aren't going to make far more waste and take up heaps more room than 20 say, 15cm CLs. Hope that clears things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I know it calculates the adult size of fish... But how can it be correct to house 20 Clownloaches in a tank with a common pleco that will grow to around 2ft and 2 sens which get big too??? I dont sea any logic to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I know it calculates the adult size of fish... But how can it be correct to house 20 Clownloaches in a tank with a common pleco that will grow to around 2ft and 2 sens which get big too??? I dont sea any logic to it? You can move fish to other tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 You can move fish to other tanks Perhaps once they grow almost too big for the tank, they are moved on. Sort of like an "advanced" fry grow out tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 sigh... the perils of internet research... 18 will be fine in there. they are very slow growers, need to be in larger groups. his filtration is adequate. you obviously have overlooked the media in the filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 also he is running an fx5 on the tank 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I know it calculates the adult size of fish... But how can it be correct to house 20 Clownloaches in a tank with a common pleco that will grow to around 2ft and 2 sens which get big too??? I dont sea any logic to it? the logic has all been stated if you read the posts sens don't get that big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sens get to about 12'' max. its rare for them to even get that big, and they are thin. they have minimal effect of bioload. I currently have the 20 clowns in a 2ft tank at work and it looks understocked. and no, i have no intention of keeping the clowns through to full adulthood - to me, they loose their appeal once they start getting big. As A-Town mentioned, I run an FX5. Also with an AC70 Powerhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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