djsurfs Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 How are people who normally collect natural sea water coping with their water changes? Switched to mixing salt? or travelling to collect water from different areas? or just risking it? I am confused about the toxin reports; they don't seem very conclusive or have a great explanation yet! or did I miss something? I'm not in Auckland, but it's not that far away either... currents etc. it would be nice to know what is really going on. OK, seaslugs are toxic. have they not always been? Are the pet posionings just due to extra detritus washed up after so many big storms? I always find dead penguins & fish (including puffers) after storms. Though I did see a dead baby seal this time too... So, the fish, slugs,octopii that carry the toxin ingest it from eating algae that contains the bacteria which create the toxin. Have I got that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 your ok so long as you don't eat the slugs i have had no problems in Tauranga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Thanks LA, that is reassuring. Still, I wonder what the people who normally fill up @ the Taka boatramp are doing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 For most a couple of months with out a water change aren't an issue. Personally I wouldn't risk it. As you said the results so far are pretty vague. To me they make no sense, as far as I know slugs don't travel huge distances, so how do they explain the distance between affected locations. If it's not the slugs moving then obviously it must be the toxic algae that is all over the place. Yet they are saying it is safe to swim etc. I have also read that the toxic algae is unlikely to be want effected the fish, penguins, and dolphins, they seems to have gone very quite on the other deaths. I still like my DOC cover up conspiracy theory. There were eye witnesses of DOC dropping posion pellets into the sea as they were flying to one of the islands. It makes perfect and easy sense to me that as school of fish ate the pellets when they hit the water, the penguins and dophins ate the fish, and the dogs, could have eaten any of the above. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze-dragon Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/n ... d=10590940 most conspiracy theories come from watching too many movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Not sure what your point is? Slugs with toxins found in two locations doesn't explain anything, just looks like someone desperate to find reason to point a finger in a different direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 the dogs eating seaslugs covers 2 deaths don't know about the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 For most a couple of months with out a water change aren't an issue. Personally I wouldn't risk it. .......... Wow, and I feel guilty if I go 2 weeks without a WC!... I was not trying to start another political thread, but was genuinely concerned about how people on the North Shore with saltwater tanks are managing, and of course also concerned the unknown "whatever" does not creep further afield. I went to the beach this arvo and found a perfect looking juvenile crayfish, entire, completely undamaged (except for being dead ) on the beach.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze-dragon Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Not sure what your point is? Slugs with toxins found in two locations doesn't explain anything, just looks like someone desperate to find reason to point a finger in a different direction. sounds like too many movies to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Oh come on, conspiracy theories are much more fun!!! (Aliens did it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 LOL, I like your explanation the best Caryl :lol: Eeeeeek!Aliens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (Aliens did it) That is NOT what the monsters told me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Wow, and I feel guilty if I go 2 weeks without a WC!... I was not trying to start another political thread, but was genuinely concerned about how people on the North Shore with saltwater tanks are managing, and of course also concerned the unknown "whatever" does not creep further afield. I went to the beach this arvo and found a perfect looking juvenile crayfish, entire, completely undamaged (except for being dead ) on the beach.... Probably a shredded shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Probably a shredded shell. ?????? eh? um, I can tell the difference. It was entire, the meat all there, not a broken antennae or anything. that's why I thought it so peculiar!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 ok, sometimes not that easy, they are often fully intact. Hope you washed your hands after checking that it had meat inside :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie841 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 re:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/n ... d=10590940 When did we start getting "tropical puffer fish" in Auckland. Did I miss something? Has global warming made NZ a tropical area? OR has someone been doing some GE and made a cold water tropical puffer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Puffer fish are 1 of the animals that can ingest and store the poison, there are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Tropical pufferfish as well as many other Tropical species ride the east auckland current from teh tropics, and come down as far as white island. ive seen lionfish on the back side of mayor island in Tauranga. why not puffers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 ok, sometimes not that easy, they are often fully intact. Hope you washed your hands after checking that it had meat inside :-? Most definitely!! LOL, you should read LA's bristleworm thread...http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=40480&p=441502&hilit=blue#p441502 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeh1 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I have been adding NSW now for 4 years. Easy get it from the raglan boat ramp. 60 litres dumped cold into the system (500 litre) Changes the temp by about 1-1.5 degrees everything seems to love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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