livebearer_breeder Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 alright i think ive have said that i would love a marine setup. well i been thinkin about it and i now know exactly what i want to do!! 1# wondering if any1 has breed clown fish before??? as that is the only thing i want, and wouldnt mind having a crack at breeding them!! but i am getting ahead of myself! 2# i want to setup a marine tank nothing bigger than 3 foot 3# as i have said total newbie, wouldnt mind a list of what im going to need and prices! 4# where would i get this stuff as have never seen any marine gear in wellington pet stores!! Any advice would be gratly appreciated!! Cheers Shae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fins Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I think there are some importers here that can supply you. You should learn how to maintain a marine tank before you even think about breeding fish. As for the equipment I think it depends on what type of tank you want, reef, fish only. You will have to buy water salt and additives for the water but ask someone else how much they cost. Also alot of test kits. Go with the biggest tank you can for the fact that the water will be more stable, you maybe could even have a sump. If only I lived in figi or the philippines again then I could go catch my own fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_from_nz Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 The Pet house in coastlands, Kapiti has a small saltwater set up and is a nice guy. In terms of what you need depends on your set up the one thing you need the most is access to lots of information if you havent gone to I terms of what you need I wont make a comment as I have no experience and you are better off talking to one of the more experienced people about that but trust me the budget will probably be bigger than you are expecting. Although if you were only planning on having fish you might be able to do it on a budget of 1-2K, Possably cheeper '>reefcentral.com I would sudgest you do. I have also found books to be very helpfull but you have to make sure you are getting one written for the begginer the best one i have come across so far is "The Questions & Answers Manual of The Marine Aquarium" I terms of what you need I wont make a comment as I have no experience and you are better off talking to one of the more experienced people about that but trust me the budget will probably be bigger than you are expecting. Although if you were only planning on having fish you might be able to do it on a budget of 1-2K, Possably cheeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted October 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 so i am assuming that no one knows the above??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGilchrist Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Have a look back through some of the old topics LB much of what you want to know has been discussed before. gives you a starting point anyway http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?t=3055 doesn't quite apply to you but gives some ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 thanks MG much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 1# wondering if any1 has breed clown fish before??? as that is the only thing i want, and wouldnt mind having a crack at breeding them!! but i am getting ahead of myself! A few people have breed them and raised fry in NZ. Getting them to the point to lay eggs is fairly common, the hard part is rasing the fry. 2# i want to setup a marine tank nothing bigger than 3 foot. If you just keeping a pair of clowns, this is ample. I use to keep a pair of percs in a 2x1x1. 3# as i have said total newbie, wouldnt mind a list of what im going to need and prices! A 3 foot set up for clowns, nothing fancy needed at all. I would perhaps use a canister filter (I like the eheim brand, expensive but nice) and regular water change (once a month?). Another option is to go with a overflow and a bare sump. You can chuck bio-balls (or whatever media you choose) in the bulkhead and the heater in the sump. Then if you want to head toward reef, you can do away with the media (replced with live rock) and and a skimmer in the sump, add lighting and power heads for water movement and your done. either way with cannister or overflow/sump will probable be in the same cost. Prices? depends on what brand you buy. The high end marine equipment is more geared towards reef keeping where water parameters seem crucial for good coral growth, not to mention water movement and light and a bucket load of additives for coral supplements and on it goes. Fish only on the other hand is fairly low tech. 4# where would i get this stuff as have never seen any marine gear in wellington pet stores!! Don't live in Wellington so can't help you there. Of course, everybody has a different way of doing things but If your doing a 3 footer with clowns, you don't need anything flash. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 There is a book called The Marine Aquarium Handbook by Martin A Moe. It has a good section on breeding marine fish. To keep the clowns happy you need a sea anemone. Keeping this alive is harder than keeping the clowns alive. Researh the anemone before you buy it. Most like good water flow. Some like VERY strong water flow. I have a gigas anemone that sits under protein skimmer return pipes and also has a powerhead blowing on it. Depending on the type you will need moderate to very intense light. If you can find a copy of The Reef Aquarium vol.2 it has most anemone types and the conditions they require. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AW Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 .....To keep the clowns happy you need a sea anemone. ...... Going to have to agree and disagree with this one. I would have to say that clown can also be kept without anemones, alive and healthy and breeding. It also depends on the type of clown you keep as to their dependancy on a anemone. Some clowns aren't to fussed what they use as a host. Some are quite happy with a larger hairy mushroom. I kepy my percs without an anemone with no problems, thet seemed happy as long as i put some food in the tank on a very regular basis. Some anemones are easy to keep to. I will have to quantify this by adding if you know what you are doing and monitoring and maintaining your tank proper. I would have to say that keeping clowns is the most rewarding when they are kept with a host anemone as company. Seeing as recommending books, if your particulary interested in clowns "Clownfishes" by Joyce D Wilkerson is an excellent book for this. Cover ALL aspects on clown fish as well as host anemones etc. I recommend this to be you first purchase into keeping clowns! " " too criptic for me to interpet. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I agree with AW, a sea anemone is not important for the clownfish at all. Lots of people breed clowns without these pesky anemones in there tank. Interesting though, some anemones have a larger chance of success with clowns living in them, particualry H.Magnifica. Interesting. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 My Sebae clown for a while looked like he was hosting in a clump of red macroalgae. I even caught him a few times feeding it by grabbing food and spitting it into the seaweed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 hehehe yeah clownfish AKA dumbassfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_from_nz Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 clownfish are also only immune to some annenomies, if you get the wrong one it will still gobble up your clown I dont know weather or not these annenomies are brought into New Zealand or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 some long tentacle anemones will eat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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