Caryl Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Does anyone know if the cleaners, used to suck up muck in swimming pools, can be used in fish ponds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Can't see why not, although depending on the thickness of the layer on the bottom it may clog it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I have never had a swimming pool nor seen one cleaned. How do the pond cleaners work? Where does the muck get sucked to? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I have never seen one either, I assume they have a basket that catches the muck and it return the water to the pool, otherwise you would have to top up everytime you cleaned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 The ones I have seen work on a venturi system where water running in is used to suck the gunge out and both lots go to waste. There is a formulae for the design of a venturi (which I don't know) and the incoming water is passed through a restricter as part of that. I have seen one made and used to suck up gravel for recovering gold from a river bed so I have no doubt that the principle would work. It would be a matter of wether the swimming pool one you are looking at can get enough water pressure from your mains (a water blaster might also be a usefull purchase) and the outlet hose being large enough to carry the gunge from the bottom of the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Thanks for your thoughts. I will have to look into it more closely I think. At this time of year the pond is so clear and the fish all tucked under the deck so an ideal time to suck out the sludge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 If you don't want to try to rig something up yourself you could try contacting a company that cleans rainwater tanks. When we had ours done they siphoned all the worst of the gunk out onto the ground but then had a petrol water pump that they fed through a filter to pump the rest of the tank water through a few times to clear up the last of the muck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 what about the pumps they use to pump out septic tanks? ponds are way more gunky than any swimming pool I've seen. Try hire pool for something like this http://www.generalhire.co.nz/?a=826&t=7 ... uctID=7062 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Good thinking! I will get Grant to look into these options 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Septic tanks are emptied with a desludging truck where a large tank on the truck is evacuated and then when the valve on the hose is opened the contents is sucked into the tank. The hose is usually about 75-100 mm. That is a lot of sukkimoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr McFish Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 We have a 5 meter by 14 meter pool and have to clean the muck up every summer and we would never just use the vaccume as is clogs up after a 2 meter strip, Then you have to flush the filter gunk out witch takes 10 minutes each time. You could get a pool net and scrape it accros the ground thats what I do and then dump a whole heap of chlorine in which clears it up in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 you cant put chlorine with fish though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr McFish Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Oh yeah thats true but I use the net to do the pool it will leave some muck behind but gets loads out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Now I have no idea the difference between a pond filter and a pool filter. But for an pool, when the filter is running the water if filtered then returned into the pool. Now say at the beginning of the season you would do what was already stated, clean out as much as you could with the net (leaves and other stuff). What we did at the first of the season after doing this we added something (don't remember the name, but probably not safe for fish) that would make stuff "gel" together then when we vacuum we would turn the filter to waste which meant that the water was not going back into the pool but to a hose that led just outside the barn. Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 No good for us Caper - we don't have a barn :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Darn-no barn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 2 ways are used in public pools. One is a electric pump and a head on the end of a pole, just like you vac your house. Water goes to waste though. The other way is a small underwater fan with a bag attached, these are not as effective as the other method. Id suggest finding a pump and make a filter/sump type system where you run the water over some fine filter wool, may take some time though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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